Netflix launches new 8-part documentary about the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.

[Robittybob1]

I did miss them, as I did Rob’s. So you think that the fact that the details of the dog’s searches were in the public domain gave the parents the go ahead to break judicial secrecy as well ?

On issues pertaining to the dogs yes.

[Mr Gray]

On issues pertaining to the dogs yes.

has anyone posted the law on judicial secrecy...no...so we dont know its precise limits

[Robittybob1]

has anyone posted the law on judicial secrecy...no...so we dont know its precise limits

When I looked it up it seems more to do with what is published in the papers, not so much about what is said in private conversations.

[Mr Gray]

When I looked it up it seems more to do with what is published in the papers, not so much about what is said in private conversations.

Thanks Rob..the law cannot legistlate to control private conversations

[Robittybob1]

Thanks Rob..the law cannot legistlate to control private conversations

Some countries could but policing that becomes a nightmare - police state situation.

[Mr Gray]

Some countries could but policing that becomes a nightmare - police state situation.

I dont know but surely a country taht says it supports free speech so strongly would not limit private conversations

[Robittybob1]

I dont know but surely a country taht says it supports free speech so strongly would not limit private conversations

I was thinking of East Germany when it existed as a country.

[Nicholas]

Despite Jeremy Hunt, the then Heath Secretary, apologised on behalf of the Government and the NHS to all Savile’s victims. Describing Savile as a “callous, opportunistic, wicked predator”, he said systems had been “too weak” to deal with their complaints and that “little or no action” had been taken at the time.
Despite there being over 500 accounts spanning 5 decades?
Still now? Still the benefit of the doubt?

Tom Watson
@tom_watson
 · 22h
This misdirected mob justice degrades our great party. These attempts to silence dissent will fail. This is not the party I know.

Ketland
@jeffreyketland
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21h
You unleashed genuine mob justice, abusing parliamentary privilege to promote nonsensical conspiracy theories and the absurd false accusations of Carl Beech.

[Miss Taken Identity]

I'll guarantee there's bandwagon jumpers seeking to profit from the situation. That happens quite routinely, such as homeless dudes robbing victims post the Manchester Arena bomb, but playing the hero - it happens.
But it shouldn't be allowed to cast aspersions on the many hundreds of genuine alleged victims. In this case the evidence is overwhelming - you're defending the indefensible with a staunch adhesion to 'innocent until proven guilty', or 'they're too dead to defend themselves'. Sometimes there are cases that we can safely assume that the majority of the reports are accurate; there's dozens that have been corroborated simply by recalling of dates / times / locations / accounts being confirmed. I'm not providing cites for the reason I mentioned earlier.

Incidentally, Adolph Hitler and Martin Bormann never got to stand trial at Nuremberg (Bormann was found guilty in absentia), but there's plenty of contemporaneous accounts of their atrocities that were subsequently borne out by the prosecutions of his appointees. Sometimes they just did it.

Yes , and sometimes people know and cant' say!  Staff at Braodmoor and the hospitals were concerned and tried to speak up but were shut down becaue he was 'friends with royalty', and raised millions for charity.

I mean why would any member of the public be gven free 24 access to the morgue? Especially, since none of his relatives were in there!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esKnWAIgpLY


The BBC made a'fitting' tribute to the god of charity -  until people said oh yeah what really?

[Nicholas]

Danny Shaw’ BBC’s Home Affairs correspondent
“Don’t agree with critics of Netflix doc on #MadeleineMcCann. I wonder if they’ve watched all 8 hours. Though over-long it is a thorough & rounded account of the case with many interviews I’ve not seen before. Explains & exposes police & PI failings & defamatory media coverage”.

Re Danny Shaw has today tweeted a link to an article written for the times - it’s behind a paywall - if anyone has access to it could they pls post a copy

Interestingly an Adrian Shaw also apparently witnessed the Aunt incident.

Have asked Danny Shaw if Adrian Shaw is a relation, also asked him he remembers seeing Adrian Shaw & whether incident happened inside or outside the court?

[Vertigo Swirl]

Re Danny Shaw has today tweeted a link to an article written for the times - it’s behind a paywall - if anyone has access to it could they pls post a copy

Interestingly an Adrian Shaw also apparently witnessed the Aunt incident.

Have asked Danny Shaw if Adrian Shaw is a relation, also asked him he remembers seeing Adrian Shaw & whether incident happened inside or outside the court?

Can you post the link here and I will copy the article and post it here.

[Robittybob1]

Can you post the link here and I will copy the article and post it here.

Make sure you are not breaking copyright rules.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Make sure you are not breaking copyright rules.

It’s a bit late for worrying about that!

[Robittybob1]

It’s a bit late for worrying about that!

Never too late for redemption.

[Mr Gray]

The ECHR can say anything it lkes, but it can't overturn a judgement issued by the Portuguese Courts. All they can do is order Portugal to pay compensation to the McCanns if they think Portugal breached their human rights.

Do you see Amaral's name in there? No, because he is not a party to the case they are pursuing with the ECHR and will not be penalised by the ECHR.

Were you aware that the McCanns could apply to the Portuguese court to reopen the case when you wrote the above