Exhibit A and the Trial of D'Andre Lane.

[barrier]

Therefore we have to assume in the absence of the court transcript that Grime was satisfied the alert was corroborated.

We have the appeal hearing.

Grime submitted Morse and Keela's training reports into evidence. Over the course of 49 tests, Morse gave no false negative or false positive responses to tests in controlled environments. He gave one “unexplained” response, which was a single bark in a “blank” room. Morse scored 100 percent in tests on December 2 and December 6, 2011. Morse was tested on variety of dates between January 21, 2011, and February 13, 2013. Morse scored 100 percent in all but one test, on which he scored 95 to 100 percent. Morse did not give false positive responses to animal remains during his tests.

https://caselaw.findlaw.com/mi-court-of-appeals/1683760.html

[Robittybob1]

OK that seems to answer a previous question I asked if there was a team of dogs. http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=10842.msg540677#msg540677

In the retrial Martin Grime would not be mentioning Keela unless Keela was involved in locating the corroborating evidence.  Morse alerts, then Keela finds a spot of blood, from which DNA confirms the blood came from Bianca.

[Mr Gray]

It’s Netflix. Do you have a subscription?

Yes

[Robittybob1]

It’s Netflix. Do you have a subscription?

The name of the series again?  Exhibit A  as in the title of the thread - Exhibit A and the Trial of D'Andre Lane.

[Mr Gray]

OK that seems to answer a previous question I asked if there was a team of dogs. http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=10842.msg540677#msg540677

In the retrial Martin Grime would not be mentioning Keela unless Keela was involved in locating the corroborating evidence.  Morse alerts, then Keela finds a spot of blood, from which DNA confirms the blood came from Bianca.

he didn't mention keela... No one did... I said his remark Re DNA was Re the CSI dig... As I remember from his white paper

[ShiningInLuz]

They were obviously used in Portugal, the case above in US and someone cited a case in Scotland.

Why S.Yorks?

Think - number of deployments * experience of handler * capability of dog.

Number of deployments.  The number of times a cadaver dog is of benefit.  The dogs do not cover vast swathes of territory, hoping to perchance upon a cadaver.  Police intelligence leads to a relatively small area to search.

Experience of handler.  The officer is taken off other duties to become a full time handler.  That is a costly resource.

Capability of dog.  The vast majority of police dogs are not cadaver dogs.  For example, tracker dogs are much more common, because they are needed much more frequently.

Most forces borrow 'specialist' dogs from any force which has them, rather than train their own.

From memory, didn't Tito and Muzzy belong to S Wales Police?  Those were the dogs deployed in Luz in June 2014.  I have reason to suspect one of those was deployed in Dec 2014 in a car search.

[Robittybob1]

He didn't mention keela... No one did... I said his remark Re DNA was Re the CSI dig... As I remember from his white paper

Keela is his CSI dog.

[Mr Gray]

Therefore we have to assume in the absence of the court transcript that Grime was satisfied the alert was corroborated.

You can assume what you like... We have no confirmation of corroboration... I don't think they were... I think based on what I've read the evidence should have been ruled inadmissible

[Mr Gray]

Keela is his CSI dog.

The white paper refers to detection dogs in general

[Robittybob1]

The white paper refers to detection dogs in general

I don't care TBH.  Grime works his dogs as a team. the cadaver dog goes first and locates a region.  The CSI dog follows up and locates a spot for forensic examination.
Together he might refer to them as "detection dogs".    Seems reasonable to me.

[Mr Gray]

I don't care TBH.  Grime works his dogs as a team. the cadaver dog goes first and locates a region.  The CSI dog follows up and locates a spot for forensic examination.
Together he might refer to them as "detection dogs".    Seems reasonable to me.

No mention of a CSI dog in the lane case

[Robittybob1]

No mention of a CSI dog in the lane case

But there was mention of Keela who is the CSI dog in the appeal case transcript.

[Mr Gray]

But there was mention of Keela who is the CSI dog in the appeal case transcript.

Cite

[Robittybob1]

Cite

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=10842.msg540711#msg540711

[Mr Gray]

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=10842.msg540711#msg540711

It does say keela was there but made no alerts so not relevant