Exhibit A and the Trial of D'Andre Lane.

[G-Unit]

I beleive in this case he claims Morse has been the subject of scientific tests..I dont see that they have...wheres the data....he has changed his stance....in the mccann case he said the alerts had no evidential reliability...he didnt say that this time..hes presenting them as evidence

In the Lane case the prosecution decided they wanted to use Grime. The judge, after taking advice, agreed. The jury were convinced by all the evidence presented even though it was all circumstantial.

[Mr Gray]

Why ?

  because the attorney did not have enough knowledge to challenge Grime...he came up with the coconut...Grime answerred his dog was not always right...the attorney wasnt aware that the dog doesnt react to teeth ...which by grimes response invalidates almoest every alert in jersey///...stockam claimed a scientific programme and testing...i dont beleive there ahs been any scientific testing on the dogs...and more and more

[Mr Gray]

In the Lane case the prosecution decided they wanted to use Grime. The judge, after taking advice, agreed. The jury were convinced by all the evidence presented even though it was all circumstantial.

I think the judge made a mistake...judges do

[Robittybob1]

as i said...so it can be accepted the dog alerted....but the question is why

Grime didn't just claim his dog alerted but his dog gave a positive response.  Does he define what a positive response is.
If it just a barking sound maybe you're right, but I'm picking it is the perceived confidence the dog had at the time of the barking alert.

[Mr Gray]

Grime didn't just claim his dog alerted but his dog gave a positive response.  Does he define what a positive response is.
If it just a barking sound maybe you're right, but I'm picking it is the perceived confidence the dog had at the time of the barking alert.

Grimes confidence is not enough to support what the dog alerted to...or it shouldnt be.....there should be proper evidence to support his calims. I believe in this case the court was convinced there was evidence...i dont see there was

[G-Unit]

I think the judge made a mistake...judges do

It doesn't really matter what you think though, does it?

[Mr Gray]

It doesn't really matter what you think though, does it?

Im giving my opinion which is supported by evidence...perhaps Ill contact lanes attorney with my evidence and then what I think might matter...no evidential reliability is pretty clear

[G-Unit]

Im giving my opinion which is supported by evidence...perhaps Ill contact lanes attorney with my evidence and then what I think might matter...no evidential reliability is pretty clear

Lane appealed in 2014 but his attempts to get Grime's evidence ruled out didn't suceed.
 https://caselaw.findlaw.com/mi-court-of-appeals/1683760.html

[Vertigo Swirl]

Lane appealed in 2014 but his attempts to get Grime's evidence ruled out didn't suceed.
 https://caselaw.findlaw.com/mi-court-of-appeals/1683760.html

Well this bit is wrong for a start
 "Tracking dogs and cadaver dogs both use a precise sense of smell to identify scents that are outside the range of human ability to detect"

Humans and dogs have the same ability to detect and identify scents.  I read it on a very respected blog so it must be true.

[Mr Gray]

Lane appealed in 2014 but his attempts to get Grime's evidence ruled out didn't suceed.
 https://caselaw.findlaw.com/mi-court-of-appeals/1683760.html

I know....but  wonder just how much they knew about Grime and hs claims...I really think the judge was misled.........not intentionally ...but i think she beleived there was more evidence behind the alerts....that the 90% accuracy reflected alerts in general..thta morse had never had  a false positive.and that they had some scientific validation

[G-Unit]

I know....but  wonder just how much they knew about Grime and hs claims...I really think the judge was misled.........not intentionally ...but i think she beleived there was more evidence behind the alerts....that the 90% accuracy reflected alerts in general..thta morse had never had  a false positive.and that they had some scientific validation

Does it never occur to you that it's you who are wrong, not Grime, Stockham or the judges of Mitchigan? Not to mention the judges of Portugal.

[Mr Gray]

Does it never occur to you that it's you who are wrong, not Grime, Stockham or the judges of Mitchigan? Not to mention the judges of Portugal.

I've considered the evidence... And no... Grime might be a better dog trainer but I've a much better knowledge of scientific method.. Neither he nor Stockham seem to have a clue how to design a scientific study.. Yet that's what their claim to the judge included

[pathfinder73]

I would not accept any explanation not backed by evidence...thats how science works anf grime wants to calim his dogs have scientific validation...I dont see that they do. His lawyer mentioned the coconut in Jersey...grime replied sometimes his dog was wrong. Eddie made 11 alerts in jersey...according to grime cadaver dogs do not react to teeth...it seems to me theres nothing to validate any of the alerts in jersey.

There is alot of evidence against lane....but i beleive the alerts should not have been admitted...i think the judge made a serious error

This is the correct quote from Martin Grime: 'People aren't right 100 per cent of the time. Otherwise they wouldn't be human.'

[Mr Gray]

This is the correct quote from Martin Grime: 'People aren't right 100 per cent of the time. Otherwise they wouldn't be human.'

Was that from netflix

[G-Unit]

I've considered the evidence... And no... Grime might be a better dog trainer but I've a much better knowledge of scientific method.. Neither he nor Stockham seem to have a clue how to design a scientific study.. Yet that's what their claim to the judge included

Oh yes, I forgot that area of your expertise (sic). I think the judges examined everything with commendible rigour.

Stockham's protocol called for regular single-and double-blind testing of dogs throughout their working lives...Stockham testified that he had tested Morse and Keela, Grime's dogs, and that both dogs had accuracy ratings in the high 90 percent range...

Grime submitted Morse and Keela's training reports into evidence. Over the course of 49 tests, Morse gave no false negative or false positive responses to tests in controlled environments. He gave one “unexplained” response, which was a single bark in a “blank” room. Morse scored 100 percent in tests on December 2 and December 6, 2011. Morse was tested on variety of dates between January 21, 2011, and February 13, 2013. Morse scored 100 percent in all but one test, on which he scored 95 to 100 percent. Morse did not give false positive responses to animal remains during his tests.
https://caselaw.findlaw.com/mi-court-of-appeals/1683760.html