Exhibit A and the Trial of D'Andre Lane.

[Holly Goodhead]

If the McCann case had happened in Detroit the parents would be doing 30 years inside now.  Do forum members think that would be the correct decision of the jury?  If so why?

I doubt it D'Andre Lane is black and working class.  The McCanns white and middle class.

[The General]

If the McCann case had happened in Detroit the parents would be doing 30 years inside now.  Do forum members think that would be the correct decision of the jury?  If so why?

It's an impossible question to answer, as we are not in full receipt of the facts. I believe there's way more 'evidence' both ways that we are not privy to.
I see your point though; it is very unusual to make such a conviction without a body, so proponents of a fair judicial system, which we all should be, may find Lane's conviction 'unfair'.
And I'm sure if he had access to a top lawyer there's a very good chance he would not be convicted.
The McCann's would almost certainly have had access to the best legal representation in your hypothetical scenario, so, equally, they would also in all probability not be convicted.

Edit: In addition, do I think Lane should have been convicted on the evidence? No. Do I think he did it? Absolutely. So did the jury, which a good defence attorney should warn a jury against.

[faithlilly]

If the McCann case had happened in Detroit the parents would be doing 30 years inside now.  Do forum members think that would be the correct decision of the jury?  If so why?

Lane was judged on the evidence presented, which included the dog alerts. If the McCanns were tried in Detroit it would depend on the rest of the evidence. This also happened in the Pilley case were Gilroy was convicted on a circumstantial case which included cadaver dog evidence.

[G-Unit]

My statement is based on fact... Not opinion.. In the lane case Grime has stated that the alerts, are confirmed by anectdotal witness statements... Why did he, say something  totally different in 2007

Can you provide a cite for the bolded text? If not, then you are not using facts.

[Holly Goodhead]

Lane was judged on the evidence presented, which included the dog alerts. If the McCanns were tried in Detroit it would depend on the rest of the evidence. This also happened in the Pilley case were Gilroy was convicted on a circumstantial case which included cadaver dog evidence.

Agreed I think there's a lot of circumstantial about D'Andre Lane plus a history of previous.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Lane was judged on the evidence presented, which included the dog alerts. If the McCanns were tried in Detroit it would depend on the rest of the evidence. This also happened in the Pilley case were Gilroy was convicted on a circumstantial case which included cadaver dog evidence.

There was no compelling evidence in the Lane case.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Agreed I think there's a lot of circumstantial about D'Andre Lane plus a history of previous.

So are we saying there is no circumstantial evidence or history of previous in the McCann case?

[Robittybob1]

If the McCann case had happened in Detroit the parents would be doing 30 years inside now.  Do forum members think that would be the correct decision of the jury?  If so why?

What is the rest of the chain of circumstantial evidence against the McCanns?

1.  Is there evidence that Gerry or Kate beat the kids?
2.  Are their statements full of illogical inconsistencies?

You are not going to get a conviction just on a dog alert/alerts.

There was no compelling evidence in the Lane case.

It is the chain of evidence that makes the total compelling.  I'm not sure about the case myself, but the jury has found against him. 

So are we saying there is no circumstantial evidence or history of previous in the McCann case?

In Kate's arguido questions the PJ were looking for evidence of previous.

[Robittybob1]

My statement is based on fact... Not opinion.. In the lane case Grime has stated that the alerts, are confirmed by anecdotal witness statements... Why did he, say something  totally different in 2007

Well what were the anecdotal witness statements in the McCann case that could be used?  If there were none he couldn't say it IMO.

[faithlilly]

There was no compelling evidence in the Lane case.

It was a circumstantial case....he was found guilty on the sum of the evidence not one compelling element.

[Vertigo Swirl]

It was a circumstantial case....he was found guilty on the sum of the evidence not one compelling element.

Would he have been found guilty without the dog alerts do you think?

[faithlilly]

Would he have been found guilty without the dog alerts do you think?

That’s an unanswerable question.

[Mr Gray]

Well what were the anecdotal witness statements in the McCann case that could be used?  If there were none he couldn't say it IMO.

martin smith and family seeing gerry mccann carrrying a child...

you must realise harrison said physical evidence was required and grime said as no remains were found then the alerts could not BECOME corroborated

[Vertigo Swirl]

That’s an unanswerable question.

I asked this question before. Putting the dog alerts to one side what was the compelling, beyond reasonable doubt evidence against Lane?

[Mr Gray]

That’s an unanswerable question.

the judge seemed to think that the alert evidence was very important....yet previously grime was clear...the alerts themselves have no evidential reliability