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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Exhibit A and the Trial of D'Andre Lane.
« Reply #570 on: July 13, 2019, 08:09:51 AM »
Quote from: The General on July 12, 2019, 09:44:06 PM
I know and that's fine. Davros wants scientific certainty, that's also fine. But the courts are working on 'beyond reasonable doubt' and that's the important 'gold standard'. They're a detection tool and that's what they're used for - to great effect.

Thrs no such thing as scientific certainty...
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Exhibit A and the Trial of D'Andre Lane.
« Reply #571 on: July 13, 2019, 08:11:38 AM »
It's Grime and Stockham who have called for more scientific testing
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Exhibit A and the Trial of D'Andre Lane.
« Reply #572 on: July 13, 2019, 08:13:14 AM »
Quote from: Robittybob1 on July 12, 2019, 09:49:41 PM
"Beyond all reasonable doubt" isn't as high a standard as "beyond all doubt" as Davel wants it to be.

Wrong again Rob... There basically no such thing as, beyond all doubt and I've never expected it
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Exhibit A and the Trial of D'Andre Lane.
« Reply #573 on: July 13, 2019, 08:24:29 AM »
Quote from: Robittybob1 on July 12, 2019, 09:13:41 PM
Only because he had previously defined it as decomposed blood.

I haven't seen anywhere grime define the detection to decomposed blood...
If you are going to contradict me you need to provide a cite... I doubt you will have one.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Exhibit A and the Trial of D'Andre Lane.
« Reply #574 on: July 13, 2019, 08:32:13 AM »
Quote from: Davel on July 13, 2019, 08:24:29 AM
I haven't seen anywhere grime define the detection to decomposed blood...
If you are going to contradict me you need to provide a cite... I doubt you will have one.
Can anyone tell me how I can cut and paste from that white paper?
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Exhibit A and the Trial of D'Andre Lane.
« Reply #575 on: July 13, 2019, 08:34:13 AM »
Quote from: Robittybob1 on July 13, 2019, 08:32:13 AM
Can you tell me how I can cut a paste from that white paper?

You can't... Tell me which page... According to you grime makes the definition early on... I think you are wrong...grime has said the dogs react to dried blood...
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Exhibit A and the Trial of D'Andre Lane.
« Reply #576 on: July 13, 2019, 08:35:43 AM »
Quote from: Robittybob1 on July 13, 2019, 08:32:13 AM
Can anyone tell me how I can cut and paste from that white paper?

And it would be copy and paste.... Not cut
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Exhibit A and the Trial of D'Andre Lane.
« Reply #577 on: July 13, 2019, 08:41:07 AM »
Quote from: Davel on July 13, 2019, 08:13:14 AM
Wrong again Rob... There basically no such thing as, beyond all doubt and I've never expected it
Well it seems like it all the same. 

Quote from: Davel on July 13, 2019, 08:35:43 AM
And it would be copy and paste.... Not cut
OK I am a bit sleepy ATM.  Sorry about that.  It is such a long document and hard to define where things are in it.  I'm sure I've seen it, and I double checked that I was reading it right.  It is in the white paper in the first 12 pages, and that's about as close as I can get at the moment.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Exhibit A and the Trial of D'Andre Lane.
« Reply #578 on: July 13, 2019, 08:46:04 AM »
Quote from: Robittybob1 on July 13, 2019, 08:41:07 AM
Well it seems like it all the same. 
OK I am a bit sleepy ATM.  Sorry about that.  It is such a long document and hard to define where things are in it.  I'm sure I've seen it, and I double checked that I was reading it right.  It is in the white paper in the first 12 pages, and that's about as close as I can get at the moment.

You shouldn't really contradict a poster unless you are sure... On page 3 and 7 grime refers to blood not decomposed blood... The dogs react to blood dried in situ... According to Grimes statement in Luz... I think you are mistaken
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Exhibit A and the Trial of D'Andre Lane.
« Reply #579 on: July 13, 2019, 08:47:26 AM »
Quote from: G-Unit on July 12, 2019, 09:41:00 PM
It's quite simple really.The McCanns said cadaver dogs are unreliable. Therefore those who support them agree and will never accept that they're wrong imo.
And McCann sceptics believe Grime’s dogs “don’t lie” and will never accept that they may not have alerted to Madeleine’s cadaver or indeed any cadaver at all.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Exhibit A and the Trial of D'Andre Lane.
« Reply #580 on: July 13, 2019, 08:47:48 AM »
Quote from: Robittybob1 on July 13, 2019, 08:41:07 AM
Well it seems like it all the same. 
OK I am a bit sleepy ATM.  Sorry about that.  It is such a long document and hard to define where things are in it.  I'm sure I've seen it, and I double checked that I was reading it right.  It is in the white paper in the first 12 pages, and that's about as close as I can get at the moment.

It might seem to you... But you would be wrong.
I've never said I want proof beyond all doubt... I've suggested scientific validation... As Grime has suggested too
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Exhibit A and the Trial of D'Andre Lane.
« Reply #581 on: July 13, 2019, 08:54:45 AM »
Quote from: Robittybob1 on July 13, 2019, 08:41:07 AM
Well it seems like it all the same. 
OK I am a bit sleepy ATM.  Sorry about that.  It is such a long document and hard to define where things are in it.  I'm sure I've seen it, and I double checked that I was reading it right.  It is in the white paper in the first 12 pages, and that's about as close as I can get at the moment.

Please dint continually demand cites from me... And remove my post... When you fail to provide cites fir your claim
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Exhibit A and the Trial of D'Andre Lane.
« Reply #582 on: July 13, 2019, 08:59:05 AM »
Quote from: Davel on July 13, 2019, 08:54:45 AM
Please dint continually demand cites from me... And remove my post... When you fail to provide cites fir your claim
Look it would take a week to read that white paper and you expect me to provide a cite instantaneously.  I have not refused to provide the cite you require.  Just don't be so impatient.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Exhibit A and the Trial of D'Andre Lane.
« Reply #583 on: July 13, 2019, 09:02:00 AM »
Quote from: Robittybob1 on July 13, 2019, 08:59:05 AM
Look it would take a week to read that white paper and you expect me to provide a cite instantaneously.  I have not refused to provide the cite you require.  Just don't be so impatient.

It doesn't take a week to read it... You said it's in the first 12 pages... Let's see if you provide a cite

I've read the first 12 pages... It isn't there
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Exhibit A and the Trial of D'Andre Lane.
« Reply #584 on: July 13, 2019, 09:05:52 AM »
Quote from: Davel on July 13, 2019, 09:02:00 AM
It doesn't take a week to read it... You said it's in the first 12 pages... Let's see if you provide a cite
I'm busy so if I say it would take a week to read it will take at least a week to read.  In fact I can barely make myself take the punishment of reading it to be honest.  Did you enjoy reading it?
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