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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Exhibit A and the Trial of D'Andre Lane.
« Reply #600 on: July 13, 2019, 09:45:28 AM »
if you open the document and search for the word blood, the 7th occasion it has this sentence talking about EVRD dogs "This type of dog may detect human blood as a sub-set of human decomposition."
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Exhibit A and the Trial of D'Andre Lane.
« Reply #601 on: July 13, 2019, 09:46:45 AM »
eddie and keela both respond to blood from a livinfg person. you are totally mistaken..imo

I shall continue to post eddie alerts to blood ...as confirmed by grime
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Exhibit A and the Trial of D'Andre Lane.
« Reply #602 on: July 13, 2019, 10:02:27 AM »
if you open the document and search for the word blood, the 7th occasion it has this sentence talking about EVRD dogs "This type of dog may detect human blood as a sub-set of human decomposition."

That is rather interesting as dried blood then is a form of decomposed blood.  Whereas I think in terms of putrefied blood but this is not absolutely necessary.

So are we both right in that dried blood is decomposed blood.
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Offline slartibartfast

Re: Exhibit A and the Trial of D'Andre Lane.
« Reply #603 on: July 13, 2019, 10:37:05 AM »
for whast its worth..another poster who is mistaken. The dogs alert ro blood...blood that has dried in situ...according to grime......grime never uses the phrase decomposing blood

As opposed to blood that is dried elsewhere and carried to the scene?
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Exhibit A and the Trial of D'Andre Lane.
« Reply #604 on: July 13, 2019, 10:46:23 AM »
I don't want your opinion anymore  I want your cite.

'Eddie' The Enhanced Victim Recovery Dog (E.V.R.D.) will search for and
locate human remains and body fluids including blood in any environment or
terrain.

eddie alerts to blood from a live person...as in the blood on the key card

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Exhibit A and the Trial of D'Andre Lane.
« Reply #605 on: July 13, 2019, 10:56:09 AM »
As opposed to blood that is dried elsewhere and carried to the scene?

I think it's, self explanatory

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Exhibit A and the Trial of D'Andre Lane.
« Reply #606 on: July 14, 2019, 11:51:31 AM »
It's quite simple really.The McCanns said cadaver dogs are unreliable. Therefore those who support them agree and will never accept that they're wrong imo.

Which brings up that ole question as to why the parents laughed off the dogs and not showed some concern that their daughter could have been killed in the apartment and hidden there, for some reason. Their behaviour is very telling. Their emphatic denial about their daughter wakeing and wandering does suggest they KNOW that didn't happen.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Exhibit A and the Trial of D'Andre Lane.
« Reply #607 on: July 14, 2019, 12:02:16 PM »
Which brings up that ole question as to why the parents laughed off the dogs and not showed some concern that their daughter could have been killed in the apartment and hidden there, for some reason. Their behaviour is very telling. Their emphatic denial about their daughter wakeing and wandering does suggest they KNOW that didn't happen.

Given Jane's sighting it raises the question of why no-one thought of concentrating their searches in the direction taken by Tannerman.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Exhibit A and the Trial of D'Andre Lane.
« Reply #608 on: July 14, 2019, 10:55:47 PM »
'Eddie' The Enhanced Victim Recovery Dog (E.V.R.D.) will search for and
locate human remains and body fluids including blood in any environment or
terrain.

eddie alerts to blood from a live person...as in the blood on the key card
OK,  where to now?
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Exhibit A and the Trial of D'Andre Lane.
« Reply #609 on: July 15, 2019, 10:08:25 AM »
OK,  where to now?

Where to... To the fact that it's perfectly acceptable to say Eddie alerts to blood... Despite the, 20 posts arguing the point

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Exhibit A and the Trial of D'Andre Lane.
« Reply #610 on: July 15, 2019, 10:26:12 AM »
Where to... To the fact that it's perfectly acceptable to say Eddie alerts to blood... Despite the, 20 posts arguing the point
As MG writes:
"Dried blood is a subset of human decomposition", so yes it appears as MG trains some of his dogs to alert to cadaver odour of "decomposed flesh, bones and blood".    No alerts to fresh blood.

I had to assume that the bones were decomposed too. 
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Exhibit A and the Trial of D'Andre Lane.
« Reply #611 on: July 15, 2019, 10:27:02 AM »
Do we both agree with Martin Grime?
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Exhibit A and the Trial of D'Andre Lane.
« Reply #612 on: July 15, 2019, 10:42:49 AM »
As MG writes:
"Dried blood is a subset of human decomposition", so yes it appears as MG trains some of his dogs to alert to cadaver odour of "decomposed flesh, bones and blood".    No alerts to fresh blood.

I had to assume that the bones were decomposed too.

Eddie alerts to dried blood from a living person... I said the dog alerted to blood.. You tried to correct me

I'm right in saying the dog alerts to blood... That's it... No need fir continued pointless arguing

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Exhibit A and the Trial of D'Andre Lane.
« Reply #613 on: July 15, 2019, 10:56:32 AM »
Eddie alerts to dried blood from a living person... I said the dog alerted to blood.. You tried to correct me

I'm right in saying the dog alerts to blood... That's it... No need fir continued pointless arguing
No Grime makes the point the blood has to be dried.  The dried blood could be from a victim who is either dead or alive at the time of the find.
"Eddie alerts to dried blood from a living person" or a deceased person.
Davel: " I said the dog alerted to blood.. You tried to correct me."  Yes because  you didn't use the word "dried" to make it clear it wasn't fresh blood.

Davel: "I'm right in saying the dog alerts to blood... That's it... No need fir continued pointless arguing"  Maybe so as long as you agree with Grime that the blood in question was dried not fresh.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Exhibit A and the Trial of D'Andre Lane.
« Reply #614 on: July 15, 2019, 11:05:51 AM »
No Grime makes the point the blood has to be dried.  The dried blood could be from a victim who is either dead or alive at the time of the find.
"Eddie alerts to dried blood from a living person" or a deceased person.
Davel: " I said the dog alerted to blood.. You tried to correct me."  Yes because  you didn't use the word "dried" to make it clear it wasn't fresh blood.

Davel: "I'm right in saying the dog alerts to blood... That's it... No need fir continued pointless arguing"  Maybe so as long as you agree with Grime that the blood in question was dried not fresh.

My post says dried blood..