Exhibit A and the Trial of D'Andre Lane.

[Vertigo Swirl]

This is a bone of contention which makes rubbish of the 'abduction' claims.

IF YOU KNEW your daughter was abducted do you really leave your children,run out along a path tell your friends and go search the apartment? what for? she has been 'abducted' which means = SHE ISN'T THERE!  come on people seriously.

If the abduction theory is to be given any credance, we aslo have to look at the  time this may have happened.

there was NO physical checks on the children since they were left by the parents going to dinner. (I know what Gerry is claiming but it is not something I believe happened- for many reasons).

Therfore a huge gap for MBM to be taken so WHY search the apartment, she could have been away hours ago.

If we do give credance to Gerrys 'loving father moment', this means the abducter was jemmying the bloody window as Gerry was in the apartment, becasue JT saw the child being carried away as the father had just left the apartment.

 JT's sighting is the prefered choice of the McCanns. I would love to hear the excuses if this was asked by a proscecutor in a trial.  I will just have to make do with the supporters excused made on the Parents behalf

No it does not mean the abductor was jemmying the bloody window as Gerry was in the apartment, what a stupid comment IMO.

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

No it does not mean the abductor was jemmying the bloody window as Gerry was in the apartment, what a stupid comment IMO.

If we're taking the Tanner sighting to be the abductor it does.

Though we now know that Tanner didn't see the abductor- but rather a British tourist (walking a strange way back from the creche, and carrying his daughter like no-one else does!!)

[Robittybob1]

If we're taking the Tanner sighting to be the abductor it does.

Though we now know that Tanner didn't see the abductor- but rather a British tourist (walking a strange way back from the creche, and carrying his daughter like no-one else does!!)

If the abductor was in thew room or apartment when Gerry was there, how would he get out?

Can you carry a child out that window?  Maybe he could get out and then pick Madeleine up off the spare bed.  She would have to be real sleepy to do that and not wake up.

[ShiningInLuz]

If the abductor was in thew room or apartment when Gerry was there, how would he get out?

Can you carry a child out that window?  Maybe he could get out and then pick Madeleine up off the spare bed.  She would have to be real sleepy to do that and not wake up.

What do vets give to dogs when they want to sedate them for a minor procedure e.g. an inner ear examination followed by the removal of a foreign object lodged there?

My dog matches the size (in length) and weight of Madeleine and he was zonked for hours after his trip to the vet.

[Vertigo Swirl]

If we're taking the Tanner sighting to be the abductor it does.

Though we now know that Tanner didn't see the abductor- but rather a British tourist (walking a strange way back from the creche, and carrying his daughter like no-one else does!!)

How does it?  How many minutes had Gerry and Jez been talking together when Tannerman was seen?  How long does it take to enter an unlocked apartment and take a child?

[Robittybob1]

What do vets give to dogs when they want to sedate them for a minor procedure e.g. an inner ear examination followed by the removal of a foreign object lodged there?

My dog matches the size (in length) and weight of Madeleine and he was zonked for hours after his trip to the vet.

I haven't worked in clinical practice for 30+ years sorry. 

[Mr Gray]

What do vets give to dogs when they want to sedate them for a minor procedure e.g. an inner ear examination followed by the removal of a foreign object lodged there?

My dog matches the size (in length) and weight of Madeleine and he was zonked for hours after his trip to the vet.

I think its a GA....induction with a barbiturate and maintainence with n2o plus something like fluothane...which would nean your dog wasnt sedated

[Robittybob1]

I think its a GA....induction with a barbiturate and maintainence with n2o plus something like fluothane...which would nean your dog wasnt sedated

We used to use ACP tablet by mouth prior to anaesthesia, but what was clear that dogs like spaniels with big floppy lips could end up with the tablet dissolving in their mouth and those ones would become real dopey for hours. 

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

I think its a GA....induction with a barbiturate and maintainence with n2o plus something like fluothane...which would nean your dog wasnt sedated

Nowadays it’s that but Propofol as the induction agent and sevoflurane (plus O2 / N2O). For human sedation the drug of choice is normally midazolam. This couldn’t have been used on May 3rd though - unless the abducter was great at IV cannulation. IM or buccal takes too long to work... IMO phenergan would have been used if MM was sedated.

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

If the abductor was in thew room or apartment when Gerry was there, how would he get out?

Can you carry a child out that window?  Maybe he could get out and then pick Madeleine up off the spare bed.  She would have to be real sleepy to do that and not wake up.

The evidence suggests that just did not happen.

[Mr Gray]

Nowadays it’s that but Propofol as the induction agent and sevoflurane (plus O2 / N2O). For human sedation the drug of choice is normally midazolam. This couldn’t have been used on May 3rd though - unless the abducter was great at IV cannulation. IM or buccal takes too long to work... IMO phenergan would have been used if MM was sedated.

propofol is also used for sedation...what about ketamine

[Robittybob1]

Nowadays it’s that but Propofol as the induction agent and sevoflurane (plus O2 / N2O). For human sedation the drug of choice is normally midazolam. This couldn’t have been used on May 3rd though - unless the abducter was great at IV cannulation. IM or buccal takes too long to work... IMO phenergan would have been used if MM was sedated.

How would you get the phenergan into the child?  I recall that came in glass vials that we'd have to open with a file and crack the top off.  Then draw it up in a syringe.  So would she have been jabbed while asleep?

[Mr Gray]

How would you get the phenergan into the child?  I recall that came in glass vials that we'd have to open with a file and crack the top off.  Then draw it up in a syringe.  So would she have been jabbed while asleep?

its a medicine...oral

[Robittybob1]

its a medicine...oral

That would be even harder in a child that was asleep.  How do you make them swallow that?  Medicine is that Pills or liquid?  ("Medicine" seems more like a sweet syrup that is swallowed.)

[Mr Gray]

That would be even harder in a child that was asleep.  How do you make them swallow that?  Medicine is that Pills or liquid?  ("Medicine" seems more like a sweet syrup that is swallowed.)

sceptics suggest it was the mccanns who sedated the children...so as  a medicine