Is it true the PJ may have "Smithman" on video?

[pathfinder73]

So they do know - thanks for that.

Only they know but they don't spend this much on a case unless they have a good idea who it is.

[Robittybob1]

Only they know but they don't spend this much on a case unless they have a good idea who it is.

Let's hope you are right.

[Robittybob1]

Only they know but they don't spend this much on a case unless they have a good idea who it is.

Thinking about what you say, I doubt if it was Gerry McCann as in the archiving report they say Gerry has an alibi for the time Smithman is seen.

[Holly Goodhead]

For the umpteenth time,Redwood never mentioned any one by name,the papers picked up on it and ran the Totman tale.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-4fp4kPi60

[Holly Goodhead]

I'm not aware of him being described as furtive, but didn't seem to want to stop or talk to anyone.
So not a 'stroll', IMO

" The individual's gait was normal, between a fast walk and a run. He did not look tired, moving in a manner usual when one carries a child. "

 https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_SMITH.htm

I've read the wit stats now, thanks. 

One of the witnesses, can't recall which, said the individual was walking downhill and that this accounted for his pace.

[Holly Goodhead]

If you read the Smith statement, you'll find that the Smiths did speak to him but there was no answer

I read all the wit stats in the link but can't recall any saying they attempted to communicate with the individual. 

[jassi]

I read all the wit stats in the link but can't recall any saying they attempted to communicate with the individual.

In that case, maybe I'm wrong, but I thought Mrs Smith asked something to the effect of 'is she asleep ?'

[Holly Goodhead]

I can understand why Holly may not be up to speed on this Rob, but you should be by now.

In Oct 2013, on Crimewatch, OG stated that Tannerman was no longer of interest, but Smithman was, and published 2 e-fits of him.

Crimewatch was NOT shown in Portugal, but the e-fits were.  They were described as OG's chief suspect.  The Sun pulled a stunt by putting up posters around Luz showing the e-fits in English and Portuguese, describing this man as a suspect.  That's not quite what DCI Andy Redwood said, but chief suspect makes a better story.

Wind forward to July 2014.  One person gets hoiked in, made an arguido, hauled down to Faro, seemingly because he allegedly looked like one of the e-fits.  Might be more, but I have not yet spoken to him about this.  He is one of the 3 alleged burglars, who lived in Luz and made phone calls to each other.

That's what would happen to InnocentDad or GuiltyMan.  Made an arguido, hoiked off to Faro, exposed by the media.

Yummy.  What an incentive.

I don't see InnocentDad or GuiltyMan stepping into the limelight.  Do you?

I agree.

Also it seems to me the emphasis is very much on looking at those who normally reside in Portugal or England when it could surely be someone who normally resides elsewhere?

Even in the aftermath most people on planet earth (currently 7.6 billion) will not have the case at the forefront of their minds.  Even less so today.  It's quite possible 'Smithman' was a tourist from some place other than Portugal/England and completely oblivious to the emphasis placed on this sighting which might well be a red herring of the Dr T type.   

[Wonderfulspam]

I read all the wit stats in the link but can't recall any saying they attempted to communicate with the individual.

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=5256.msg186852#msg186852

[Holly Goodhead]

DCI Redwood never said Tannerman was no longer a person of interest, he merely said that he wasn't thought to be the (actual) abductor. What are the odds of another man, Smithman,  being dressed almost identically to Tannerman & carrying a young barefooted girl in pyjamas within the same hour Madeleine went missing?

High imo given OC operated the night creche facility.  I find the Smith/Tanner descriptions are pretty nondescript too.  Also there's a significant time difference isn't there between these two sightings?   

[Holly Goodhead]

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=5256.msg186852#msg186852

Thanks.  I'm pretty sure no mention of this in wit stats.  I'll have another look later.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Thanks.  I'm pretty sure no mention of this in wit stats.  I'll have another look later.

I don't believe Smith's wife ever gave a statement to the police, for some inexplicable reason.

[jassi]

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=5256.msg186852#msg186852

Thanks, that must be where I saw it   

[Holly Goodhead]

In that case, maybe I'm wrong, but I thought Mrs Smith asked something to the effect of 'is she asleep ?'

I'm seeing the Smith sighting as 'after the event' and 'after, after the event'.  Initially Mr Smith makes a tel call very early on to describe his sighting.  It seems unlikely he did not observe GM thereafter in the papers and on the news.  Once the McCanns are made arguidos and depart Portugal he then claims he believes the individual to be GM on the basis of how he was holding SM as he departed the Easy Jet flight from Faro and yet his initial wit stat is fairly nondescript imo. 

The wit stats do not mention that any of the party discussed the individual before learning of MM's disappearance  eg 'He looked well dodgy' etc, etc.   It seems it was a non-event until Mr Smith learned of MM's disappearance. 

[Vertigo Swirl]

I'm seeing the Smith sighting as 'after the event' and 'after, after the event'.  Initially Mr Smith makes a tel call very early on to describe his sighting.  It seems unlikely he did not observe GM thereafter in the papers and on the news.  Once the McCanns are made arguidos and depart Portugal he then claims he believes the individual to be GM on the basis of how he was holding SM as he departed the Easy Jet flight from Faro and yet his initial wit stat is fairly nondescript imo. 

The wit stats do not mention that any of the party discussed the individual before learning of MM's disappearance  eg 'He looked well dodgy' etc, etc.   It seems it was a non-event until Mr Smith learned of MM's disappearance.