Is it true the PJ may have "Smithman" on video?

[slartibartfast]

I'm seeing the Smith sighting as 'after the event' and 'after, after the event'.  Initially Mr Smith makes a tel call very early on to describe his sighting.  It seems unlikely he did not observe GM thereafter in the papers and on the news.  Once the McCanns are made arguidos and depart Portugal he then claims he believes the individual to be GM on the basis of how he was holding SM as he departed the Easy Jet flight from Faro and yet his initial wit stat is fairly nondescript imo. 

The wit stats do not mention that any of the party discussed the individual before learning of MM's disappearance  eg 'He looked well dodgy' etc, etc.   It seems it was a non-event until Mr Smith learned of MM's disappearance.

Bit like the JT sighting.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Bit like the JT sighting.

Apart from JT reported her sighting more or less straight away and Smith waited weeks before reporting his.

[Holly Goodhead]

Bit like the JT sighting.

Yes.

[Holly Goodhead]

Apart from JT reported her sighting more or less straight away and Smith waited weeks before reporting his.

But JT only reported her sighting after she learned of MM's disappearance.  She did not think at the time it was MM.  Had she have done she would have given chase or run back to the others or taken some immediate action. 

[jassi]

But JT only reported her sighting after she learned of MM's disappearance.  She did not think at the time it was MM.  Had she have done she would have given chase or run back to the others or taken some immediate action.

Yes, her conviction that it was Madeleine she saw only came later, as I recall

[Robittybob1]

I'm seeing the Smith sighting as 'after the event' and 'after, after the event'.  Initially Mr Smith makes a tel call very early on to describe his sighting.  It seems unlikely he did not observe GM thereafter in the papers and on the news.  Once the McCanns are made arguidos and depart Portugal he then claims he believes the individual to be GM on the basis of how he was holding SM as he departed the Easy Jet flight from Faro and yet his initial wit stat is fairly nondescript imo. 

The wit stats do not mention that any of the party discussed the individual before learning of MM's disappearance  eg 'He looked well dodgy' etc, etc.   It seems it was a non-event until Mr Smith learned of MM's disappearance.

I wouldn't call Martin Smith's actions "early on".  AFAIK they were back in Ireland before he made contact with the PJ.  Well even if I'm wrong about that it was about 2 weeks later that he contacted the PJ.
He would have seen Gerry in the papers before he made his initial statement.

[Robittybob1]

Yes.

How is it like the JT sighting?

[Holly Goodhead]

How is it like the JT sighting?

How is it not?

[Robittybob1]

How is it not?

The child was being carried differently.
the children IIRC was different ages and wore different clothing.
One was limp and the other semiconscious IMO.

Jane owned up that night, Smiths took a fortnight.

[Holly Goodhead]

The child was being carried differently.
the children IIRC was different ages and wore different clothing.
One was limp and the other semiconscious IMO.

Jane owned up that night, Smiths took a fortnight.

Sorry I misunderstood.  Yes I agree they're two different individuals carrying different children but imo they're both red herrings. 

[The General]

Sorry I misunderstood.  Yes I agree they're two different individuals carrying different children but imo they're both red herrings.

By red heering you mean 'not involved', as opposed to the conventional use of the term?

[ShiningInLuz]

The child was being carried differently.
the children IIRC was different ages and wore different clothing.
One was limp and the other semiconscious IMO.

Jane owned up that night, Smiths took a fortnight.

Both children were considered potentially to be MM.

Both sightings were deemed insignificant until the sighters became aware of MMs disappearance.  JT was faster to be informed of this than the Smiths.

A clothing issue arises only if one accepts the McCanns version of events and the accuracy of the Smith statements.

The bit IYO is precisely that.  Neither JT nor any of the Smiths reported a semi-conscious child.

[Holly Goodhead]

By red heering you mean 'not involved', as opposed to the conventional use of the term?

 

[Robittybob1]

Sorry I misunderstood.  Yes I agree they're two different individuals carrying different children but imo they're both red herrings.

Why would you say that?   If there is anything that can't be mistaken it is the direction something passes through you visual field,  You might not focus on it, but for sure you know in what direction it travelled.
IMO Jane saw someone walking left to right.    That is not a red herring.

[Robittybob1]

Both children were considered potentially to be MM.

Both sightings were deemed insignificant until the sighters became aware of MMs disappearance.  JT was faster to be informed of this than the Smiths.

A clothing issue arises only if one accepts the McCanns version of events and the accuracy of the Smith statements.

The bit IYO is precisely that.  Neither JT nor any of the Smiths reported a semi-conscious child.

No jane does use the term "limp", as if unconscious.