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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Is it true the PJ may have "Smithman" on video?
« Reply #210 on: July 08, 2019, 06:54:22 PM »
Really? I don't recall ever saying any such thing.
Well don’t you??
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline jassi

Re: Is it true the PJ may have "Smithman" on video?
« Reply #211 on: July 08, 2019, 06:55:52 PM »
Well don’t you??

I think it possible but as Smithman has never been identified, who knows - other than Smithman?
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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Is it true the PJ may have "Smithman" on video?
« Reply #212 on: July 08, 2019, 06:56:53 PM »
I think it possible but as Smithman has never been identified, who knows - other than Smithman?

& his wife.
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Offline jassi

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I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Is it true the PJ may have "Smithman" on video?
« Reply #214 on: July 08, 2019, 06:58:54 PM »
My mistake, know. Better now?
A few things to consider.
You believe Madeleine was murdered before the parents went out, so by 10pm the body could have been quite stiff with rigor mortis.  The child would have looked unnatural in the carrier’s arms IMO.
Next.  You are carrying a (somewhat stiff looking) little girl through town, past the bars and restaurants, with a strong likelihood that you will be seen.  You know that soon the town will be crawling with people out looking for this child and you intend to be hanging round the scene, even going on tv to make an appeal so you know that if you were seen by people in the resort there is a strong chance they will remember seeing you carrying this supposedly abducted child.

Isn’t that a bit bloody stupid?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline The General

Re: Is it true the PJ may have "Smithman" on video?
« Reply #215 on: July 08, 2019, 07:00:52 PM »
Well you believe he was Gerry so why did the dumb cluck not think to cover the body before setting forth on his attention seeking mission?
If I were to conduct hypothetical, macabre operation, I wouldn't cover the body, I'd try to make her look as much like a sleeping child as possible. The best way would be with a buggy tilted all the way back, then maybe a blanket, but as we know, a buggy wasn't available.
All hypothetically speaking (read this post quickly, as it is likely to be deleted forthwith).
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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Is it true the PJ may have "Smithman" on video?
« Reply #216 on: July 08, 2019, 07:01:10 PM »
A few things to consider.
You believe Madeleine was murdered before the parents went out, so by 10pm the body could have been quite stiff with rigor mortis.  The child would have looked unnatural in the carrier’s arms IMO.
Next.  You are carrying a (somewhat stiff looking) little girl through town, past the bars and restaurants, with a strong likelihood that you will be seen.  You know that soon the town will be crawling with people out looking for this child and you intend to be hanging round the scene, even going on tv to make an appeal so you know that if you were seen by people in the resort there is a strong chance they will remember seeing you carrying this supposedly abducted child.

Isn’t that a bit bloody stupid?

She wasn't moving when the Smiths saw her.

Would you expect passers by to test her flexibility as well as her pulse?
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Is it true the PJ may have "Smithman" on video?
« Reply #217 on: July 08, 2019, 07:02:20 PM »
She wasn't moving when the Smiths saw her.

Would you expect passers by to test her flexibility as well as her pulse?
Did I suggest that I would?  Well done for ignoring the rest of my post.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Is it true the PJ may have "Smithman" on video?
« Reply #218 on: July 08, 2019, 07:03:44 PM »
Did I suggest that I would?  Well done for ignoring the rest of my post.

My pleasure.

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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Is it true the PJ may have "Smithman" on video?
« Reply #219 on: July 08, 2019, 07:05:42 PM »
My pleasure.

I learned it from you.
I answered your post, I’ve been out all day and hadn’t yet worked my way down to that thread.  I ALWAYS answer reasonable questions put to me, unlike some people who prefer to ignore difficult questions, or just take the piss out of them to deflect from having to give a straight answer.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Is it true the PJ may have "Smithman" on video?
« Reply #220 on: July 08, 2019, 07:10:10 PM »
If I were to conduct hypothetical, macabre operation, I wouldn't cover the body, I'd try to make her look as much like a sleeping child as possible. The best way would be with a buggy tilted all the way back, then maybe a blanket, but as we know, a buggy wasn't available.
All hypothetically speaking (read this post quickly, as it is likely to be deleted forthwith).
You still risk being seen pushing a buggy with a kid in it at around about the same time your wife (who you will appear with on TV 24 hours later) is screaming that this child has been abducted.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Is it true the PJ may have "Smithman" on video?
« Reply #221 on: July 08, 2019, 07:12:36 PM »
You still risk being seen pushing a buggy with a kid in it at around about the same time your wife (who you will appear with on TV 24 hours later) is screaming that this child has been abducted.

Whoever said disposing of a body was without risk.
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Offline jassi

Re: Is it true the PJ may have "Smithman" on video?
« Reply #222 on: July 08, 2019, 07:12:59 PM »
You still risk being seen pushing a buggy with a kid in it at around about the same time your wife (who you will appear with on TV 24 hours later) is screaming that this child has been abducted.


In which case the game's up, but maybe worth the risk.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

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Offline faithlilly

Re: Is it true the PJ may have "Smithman" on video?
« Reply #223 on: July 08, 2019, 07:40:12 PM »
A few things to consider.
You believe Madeleine was murdered before the parents went out, so by 10pm the body could have been quite stiff with rigor mortis.  The child would have looked unnatural in the carrier’s arms IMO.
Next.  You are carrying a (somewhat stiff looking) little girl through town, past the bars and restaurants, with a strong likelihood that you will be seen.  You know that soon the town will be crawling with people out looking for this child and you intend to be hanging round the scene, even going on tv to make an appeal so you know that if you were seen by people in the resort there is a strong chance they will remember seeing you carrying this supposedly abducted child.

Isn’t that a bit bloody stupid?

Even more stupid for an abductor?
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Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: Is it true the PJ may have "Smithman" on video?
« Reply #224 on: July 08, 2019, 08:07:17 PM »
A few things to consider.
You believe Madeleine was murdered before the parents went out, so by 10pm the body could have been quite stiff with rigor mortis.  The child would have looked unnatural in the carrier’s arms IMO.
Next.  You are carrying a (somewhat stiff looking) little girl through town, past the bars and restaurants, with a strong likelihood that you will be seen.  You know that soon the town will be crawling with people out looking for this child and you intend to be hanging round the scene, even going on tv to make an appeal so you know that if you were seen by people in the resort there is a strong chance they will remember seeing you carrying this supposedly abducted child.

Isn’t that a bit bloody stupid?

There are suggested routes Smithman might have taken avoiding the busy areas of town.. Also is it true that GM is on record as saying the streets were usually quiet at 15 minute.. err 30 minute kiddie check time?