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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Is it true the PJ may have "Smithman" on video?
« Reply #240 on: July 08, 2019, 08:47:22 PM »
Equally stupid then.
Not in my opinion, risky but less crazy.  In any case it’s quite possible Smithman is perfectly innocent and not involved at all.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Is it true the PJ may have "Smithman" on video?
« Reply #241 on: July 08, 2019, 08:50:13 PM »
Not in my opinion, risky but less crazy.  In any case it’s quite possible Smithman is perfectly innocent and not involved at all.
And what about the PJ know who he was because he was on video.
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Offline faithlilly

Re: Is it true the PJ may have "Smithman" on video?
« Reply #242 on: July 08, 2019, 08:57:55 PM »
Not in my opinion, risky but less crazy.  In any case it’s quite possible Smithman is perfectly innocent and not involved at all.

Then why hasn’t he come forward ?
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Is it true the PJ may have "Smithman" on video?
« Reply #243 on: July 08, 2019, 09:13:35 PM »
Then why hasn’t he come forward ?
How do we know he hasn't?
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Is it true the PJ may have "Smithman" on video?
« Reply #244 on: July 08, 2019, 09:57:22 PM »
How do we know he hasn't?
That is the thing about coming forward via "Crimestoppers" the information is then kept confidential.  Even if someone comes forward and confidentially admits carrying  a child through PdL at that time, can the PJ ever with 100% certainty say he was the same man seen by the Smiths.   No they can't.  And the PJ are stuck by the  confidentiality arrangement of Crimestoppers so they can't tell us he came forward.
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Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: Is it true the PJ may have "Smithman" on video?
« Reply #245 on: July 08, 2019, 10:10:37 PM »
A small child could easily be placed into a holdall.

Assuming Smithman was someone sinister carrying a dead body what did he then do?  According to a geologist the ground was hard.  Smithman wasn't carrying a spade.  What sort of implement would you expect to find hanging around that could be used for a dig?  Difficult to throw a body into the Ocean without it washing up some place.

Perhaps Smithman knew someone with a big freezer?

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Is it true the PJ may have "Smithman" on video?
« Reply #246 on: July 08, 2019, 10:56:05 PM »
Then why hasn’t he come forward ?
Maybe he got run over and died.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Is it true the PJ may have "Smithman" on video?
« Reply #247 on: July 08, 2019, 11:18:30 PM »
Perhaps Smithman knew someone with a big freezer?
Doesn't everyone?
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Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: Is it true the PJ may have "Smithman" on video?
« Reply #248 on: July 08, 2019, 11:45:25 PM »
That is the thing about coming forward via "Crimestoppers" the information is then kept confidential.  Even if someone comes forward and confidentially admits carrying  a child through PdL at that time, can the PJ ever with 100% certainty say he was the same man seen by the Smiths.   No they can't.  And the PJ are stuck by the  confidentiality arrangement of Crimestoppers so they can't tell us he came forward.

I'm sure they can come forward and tell us.

I can't see why they would.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Is it true the PJ may have "Smithman" on video?
« Reply #249 on: July 08, 2019, 11:51:21 PM »
I'm sure they can come forward and tell us.

I can't see why they would.
Who is they?  The PJ or the person coming forward?  It depends whether you want anonymity or not AFAIK.
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Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: Is it true the PJ may have "Smithman" on video?
« Reply #250 on: July 08, 2019, 11:59:08 PM »
Who is they?  The PJ or the person coming forward?  It depends whether you want anonymity or not AFAIK.

Not at all sure the PJ do anonymity.

But it matters not a jot.

All it would take is "Smithman has been eliminated from our enquiry".

End of.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Is it true the PJ may have "Smithman" on video?
« Reply #251 on: July 08, 2019, 11:59:57 PM »
Maybe he got run over and died.
He would have been classed as a tourist committing suicide if that had happened IMO.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Is it true the PJ may have "Smithman" on video?
« Reply #252 on: July 09, 2019, 12:01:56 AM »
Not at all sure the PJ do anonymity.

But it matters not a jot.

All it would take is "Smithman has been eliminated from our enquiry".

End of.
Do they even do that?  "Smithman has been eliminated from our enquiry"  That sounds a bit decisive IMO.
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Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: Is it true the PJ may have "Smithman" on video?
« Reply #253 on: July 09, 2019, 12:17:16 AM »
Do they even do that?  "Smithman has been eliminated from our enquiry"  That sounds a bit decisive IMO.

OG has said the Smithman e-fits are no longer of interest.
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Offline pathfinder73

Re: Is it true the PJ may have "Smithman" on video?
« Reply #254 on: July 09, 2019, 12:45:23 AM »
These efits were received by the Operation Grange team in September 2008
as part of a dossier of material handed to the MPS by private
investigators that had been working on the case.  The MPS will not comment
on whether identifications have or have not been made however the efits do
not form part of any current appeal.

Should you have any further enquiries concerning this matter, please
contact me on 0207 161 3583 or via email at [email address],
quoting the reference number above.

Yours sincerely

David Edwards
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.