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Offline Robittybob1

What is wrong with Kate's statements?
« on: July 08, 2019, 11:17:05 PM »
Billy Whizz Fan Club AKA Billy wrote "Does KM say specifically which parts of her May and September statements have been wrongly translated - or could it be supposed that this assertion is a get out of jail response applied to any awkward questions about what she has said?

Also why did she sign it if it was wrong, in your opinion?"
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: What is wrong with Kate's statements?
« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2019, 11:22:21 PM »
Billy wrote "Does KM say specifically which parts of her May and September statements have been wrongly translated - or could it be supposed that this assertion is a get out of jail response applied to any awkward questions about what she has said?

Also why did she sign it if it was wrong, in your opinion?"
Probably after however many hours giving statements they just wanted to get out of there and back to PdL and did ‘t want to make a fuss about changing bath to shower.  They probably thought what hell difference would it make to finding Madeleine and let it go.  Maybe they skim read it, I know I do when prsented with something to sign and the person standing over me with a pen.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: What is wrong with Kate's statements?
« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2019, 11:29:24 PM »
Or maybe Kate said bath to deflect from the fact that she had had  a shower, then forgot about her cunning ruse and said shower the second time thus letting the cat out of the bag big time.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline misty

Re: What is wrong with Kate's statements?
« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2019, 12:00:44 AM »
Kate McCann 4th May 2007

https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/P1/01_VOLUME_Ia_Page_60.jpg

Line 67

"Tomou banho" translates as "took a shower".

Offline Robittybob1

Re: What is wrong with Kate's statements?
« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2019, 12:04:44 AM »
Kate McCann 4th May 2007

https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/P1/01_VOLUME_Ia_Page_60.jpg

Line 67

"Tomou banho" translates as "took a shower".
What is wrong with taking a shower after a run, then later having a bath?
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Offline misty

Re: What is wrong with Kate's statements?
« Reply #5 on: July 09, 2019, 12:20:15 AM »
What is wrong with taking a shower after a run, then later having a bath?

Kate didn't say that. The translation of Kate's 4th May statement is incorrect.

Offline pathfinder73

Re: What is wrong with Kate's statements?
« Reply #6 on: July 09, 2019, 12:39:44 AM »
It wasn't whether it was a shower or a bath. The time was different in both statements.

Thursday May 3rd 2007
Yesterday, after the daily routine, Madeleine and the twins went to bed at around 7.30. They were in their respective beds. The interviewee and her husband stayed in their apartment to relax until 8.30pm. She took a bath, did her make-up and drank a glass of New Zealand wine with her husband.

https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/KATE-MCCANN.htm

While the children were eating and looking at some books, Kate had a shower which lasted around 5 minutes. After showering, at around 6:30/6:40PM and while she was getting dry, she heard somebody knocking at the veranda door. She wrapped herself in a towel and went to see who it was.
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/KATE-MCCANN_ARGUIDO.htm


Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Robittybob1

Re: What is wrong with Kate's statements?
« Reply #7 on: July 09, 2019, 12:42:30 AM »
Kate didn't say that. The translation of Kate's 4th May statement is incorrect.
You didn't say that above.
"Yesterday, after the daily routine, Madeleine and the twins went to bed at around 7.30. They were in their respective beds. The interviewee and her husband stayed in their apartment to relax until 8.30pm. She took a bath, did her make-up and drank a glass of New Zealand wine with her husband."

You said ""Tomou banho" translates as "took a shower"".  So what does "She took a bath" read in Portuguese?

Google Translate says "She took a bath" as "ela tomou banho", but also gives the same result for "she took a shower". 



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Offline Robittybob1

Re: What is wrong with Kate's statements?
« Reply #8 on: July 09, 2019, 12:44:32 AM »
It wasn't whether it was a shower or a bath. The time was different in both statements.

Thursday May 3rd 2007
Yesterday, after the daily routine, Madeleine and the twins went to bed at around 7.30. They were in their respective beds. The interviewee and her husband stayed in their apartment to relax until 8.30pm. She took a bath, did her make-up and drank a glass of New Zealand wine with her husband.

https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/KATE-MCCANN.htm

While the children were eating and looking at some books, Kate had a shower which lasted around 5 minutes. After showering, at around 6:30/6:40PM and while she was getting dry, she heard somebody knocking at the veranda door. She wrapped herself in a towel and went to see who it was.
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/KATE-MCCANN_ARGUIDO.htm
So I ask: "What is wrong with taking a shower after a run, then later having a bath?".
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Offline misty

Re: What is wrong with Kate's statements?
« Reply #9 on: July 09, 2019, 12:44:46 AM »
It wasn't whether it was a shower or a bath. The time was different in both statements.

Thursday May 3rd 2007
Yesterday, after the daily routine, Madeleine and the twins went to bed at around 7.30. They were in their respective beds. The interviewee and her husband stayed in their apartment to relax until 8.30pm. She took a bath, did her make-up and drank a glass of New Zealand wine with her husband.

https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/KATE-MCCANN.htm

While the children were eating and looking at some books, Kate had a shower which lasted around 5 minutes. After showering, at around 6:30/6:40PM and while she was getting dry, she heard somebody knocking at the veranda door. She wrapped herself in a towel and went to see who it was.
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/KATE-MCCANN_ARGUIDO.htm

The first statement was both ambiguous & paraphrased in relation to the temporal sequence of events imo.

Offline pathfinder73

Re: What is wrong with Kate's statements?
« Reply #10 on: July 09, 2019, 12:51:11 AM »
So I ask: "What is wrong with taking a shower after a run, then later having a bath?".

A shower after a run is what you would think would have happened but Kate didn't say that. 4 May 2007 -  a shower after the kids were put to bed. 6 Sep 2007 -  a shower before the kids were put to bed.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Robittybob1

Re: What is wrong with Kate's statements?
« Reply #11 on: July 09, 2019, 12:56:48 AM »
A shower after a run is what you would think would have happened but Kate didn't say that. 4 May 2007 -  a shower after the kids were put to bed. 6 Sep 2007 -  a shower before the kids were put to bed.
"ela tomou banho" translates to bath or shower so the 4th could translate to "a bath after the kids were put to bed"
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Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: What is wrong with Kate's statements?
« Reply #12 on: July 09, 2019, 01:08:11 AM »
Kate McCann 4th May 2007

https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/P1/01_VOLUME_Ia_Page_60.jpg

Line 67

"Tomou banho" translates as "took a shower".

I'll accept it's a good translation.
Where's GM at this point?

Offline misty

Re: What is wrong with Kate's statements?
« Reply #13 on: July 09, 2019, 01:09:33 AM »
"ela tomou banho" translates to bath or shower so the 4th could translate to "a bath after the kids were put to bed"

If you want to say "she took a bath" you need to insert "um" between tomou & banho. (Ela tomou um banho)

Offline misty

Re: What is wrong with Kate's statements?
« Reply #14 on: July 09, 2019, 01:10:47 AM »
I'll accept it's a good translation.
Where's GM at this point?

On the tennis court, witnessed by other holidaymakers.