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Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: What is wrong with Kate's statements?
« Reply #15 on: July 09, 2019, 01:12:47 AM »
So I ask: "What is wrong with taking a shower after a run, then later having a bath?".

Nothing. I'll accept the translation is fine. Where was GM at the point she had a bath or shower?. What part of the statement does KM say was inaccurate?

Offline Robittybob1

Re: What is wrong with Kate's statements?
« Reply #16 on: July 09, 2019, 01:13:33 AM »
If you want to say "she took a bath" you need to insert "um" between tomou & banho. (Ela tomou um banho)
I'll take your word for that as I don't know TBH.
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Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: What is wrong with Kate's statements?
« Reply #17 on: July 09, 2019, 01:15:53 AM »
The first statement was both ambiguous & paraphrased in relation to the temporal sequence of events imo.

I agree that's a good explanation. The second statement is more accurate IMO - but it blows a hole in Mitchell's claims about the missing six hours also IMO.

Offline Robittybob1

Re: What is wrong with Kate's statements?
« Reply #18 on: July 09, 2019, 01:26:46 AM »
Nothing. I'll accept the translation is fine. Where was GM at the point she had a bath or shower?. What part of the statement does KM say was inaccurate?
Well we don't know do we, but when I looked at it  a couple of sentences hit me as being a bit suspect.

1.  "Her husband said that the children were doing well and that he had bumped into the person with whom he had played tennis, a person who has two children."  Why did she care to mention that Jez has two children?

2.  "At the same time, one of the group of friends, Russell, went to see his children, without checking on the interviewee's children."

Is Kate being confused here and should have said Matt rather than Russell?

3. "Around 9.30pm was the time the interviewee should have gone to see her children, but her friend Matt (a member of the group) had just done a check in his apartment then gone to the interviewee's. He had entered the apartment by a glass sliding side door, that was always unlocked and once inside had not gone into the children's bedroom. He only looked through the door, and did not hear any noise. He went back to the restaurant and said that everything was fine."

To me that reads as if Matt entered the McCann's apartment without asking before hand.

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Offline misty

Re: What is wrong with Kate's statements?
« Reply #19 on: July 09, 2019, 01:29:46 AM »
Gerry McCann 10th May 2007
...
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/P4/04_VOLUME_IVa_Page_899.jpg 

Lines 248/9
(1930hrs children in bed)
como ainda era cedo, o depoente tomou banho, pensa que a Kate ja o tinha feito, conversam um bocada e beberam vinho ou cerveja

translates to

as it was still early, the deponent took a shower, thinks that Kate had already done it, talked a little and drank wine or beer

Offline Robittybob1

Re: What is wrong with Kate's statements?
« Reply #20 on: July 09, 2019, 01:33:04 AM »
Gerry McCann 10th May 2007
...
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/P4/04_VOLUME_IVa_Page_899.jpg 

Lines 248/9
(1930hrs children in bed)
como ainda era cedo, o depoente tomou banho, pensa que a Kate ja o tinha feito, conversam um bocada e beberam vinho ou cerveja

translates to

as it was still early, the deponent took a shower, thinks that Kate had already done it, talked a little and drank wine or beer
Getting harder to explain now.
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Offline misty

Re: What is wrong with Kate's statements?
« Reply #21 on: July 09, 2019, 01:37:57 AM »
Getting harder to explain now.

Gerry didn't state that he recalled Kate taking a bath or shower between 7.30 & 8.30pm. I don't find that hard to understand at all.

Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: What is wrong with Kate's statements?
« Reply #22 on: July 09, 2019, 01:54:15 AM »
Well we don't know do we,

Someone here yesterday reported it as a fact.

Offline Robittybob1

Re: What is wrong with Kate's statements?
« Reply #23 on: July 09, 2019, 02:34:38 AM »
Gerry didn't state that he recalled Kate taking a bath or shower between 7.30 & 8.30pm. I don't find that hard to understand at all.
It makes sense that Kate had an earlier shower and Gerry the later one.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: What is wrong with Kate's statements?
« Reply #24 on: July 09, 2019, 02:36:53 AM »
Someone here yesterday reported it as a fact.

That was just a fraction of my post.  So what are you referring to?  Was it something I said?  If I'm right more than half the time I'm happy.

Looking at what I wrote the reply goes
Billy: " What part of the statement does KM say was inaccurate?"
Rob:  "Well we don't know do we, ..."

As in what part did she think was inaccurate?  Do you know more than I do?
« Last Edit: July 09, 2019, 02:47:03 AM by Robittybob1 »
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Offline G-Unit

Re: What is wrong with Kate's statements?
« Reply #25 on: July 09, 2019, 07:30:34 AM »
On the tennis court, witnessed by other holidaymakers.

Which other holidaymakers?

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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: What is wrong with Kate's statements?
« Reply #26 on: July 09, 2019, 07:34:31 AM »
I agree that's a good explanation. The second statement is more accurate IMO - but it blows a hole in Mitchell's claims about the missing six hours also IMO.
What missing six hours are you referring to?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Robittybob1

Re: What is wrong with Kate's statements?
« Reply #27 on: July 09, 2019, 09:08:42 AM »
What missing six hours are you referring to?
Google the missing six hours.
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Offline pathfinder73

Re: What is wrong with Kate's statements?
« Reply #28 on: July 09, 2019, 01:11:50 PM »
It makes sense that Kate had an earlier shower and Gerry the later one.

But the McCanns don't make sense and that's why they are questioned. She left the children alone and had a shower. Why didn't she have it straight after her run and before Gerry left? That makes sense! It will be interesting to see what they conclude happened at 18:30 in apartment 5A in the final case.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: What is wrong with Kate's statements?
« Reply #29 on: July 09, 2019, 08:01:02 PM »
What missing six hours are you referring to?

Mitchell was referring to 14:39 - 20:39 as far as I remember. Though why he had forgotten the crèche Records is anyone’s guess