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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: The 'Find Madeleine Campaign' Helpful or Harmful?
« Reply #225 on: July 14, 2019, 06:44:48 PM »
How do you know in advance ?
Only sceptics make youtube videos about this case afaik.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: The 'Find Madeleine Campaign' Helpful or Harmful?
« Reply #226 on: July 14, 2019, 06:45:42 PM »
You've seen 'Madeleine Was Here' ?
What’s that?  A youtube vid?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline jassi

Re: The 'Find Madeleine Campaign' Helpful or Harmful?
« Reply #227 on: July 14, 2019, 06:47:41 PM »
Only sceptics make youtube videos about this case afaik.

So your mind is closed ?
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: The 'Find Madeleine Campaign' Helpful or Harmful?
« Reply #228 on: July 14, 2019, 07:06:32 PM »
So your mind is closed ?
to propaganda videos yes.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline faithlilly

Re: The 'Find Madeleine Campaign' Helpful or Harmful?
« Reply #229 on: July 14, 2019, 07:21:10 PM »
Yes it does matter.  It only became a charity once it was known that April was gone.  Meanwhile the cash was in the Jones’ bank account.

Do you have a cite for that ?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: The 'Find Madeleine Campaign' Helpful or Harmful?
« Reply #230 on: July 14, 2019, 08:26:32 PM »
Do you have a cite for that ?

On 5 October 2012, police officially designated the case a murder inquiry; even though a body had not been found, this was the first indication that the police now had reason to believe that April Jones is dead.[21] Sky News presenter Kay Burley was accused of insensitivity after breaking the news of Jones' probable death live on-air to volunteers who had been searching for her. The interviewees were unaware the case had changed from a search for a missing person into a murder inquiry.[22][23][24]

On 6 October, Bridger was charged with child abduction, murder, and attempting to pervert the course of justice.[1]

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https://www.countytimes.co.uk/news/15833286.missing-april-jones-fund-to-be-registered-as-a-charity/

News
8th November 2012
Missing April Jones' fund to be registered as a charity
By Barry Jones
   

APRIL’S Fund, which now stands at around £40,000, is to be registered with the Charities Commission. 

The fund was set up as a result of money being handed in at Y Plas to support the search teams, volunteers, the community and the family of missing girl April Jones.

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Hope that suffices.



"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline faithlilly

Re: The 'Find Madeleine Campaign' Helpful or Harmful?
« Reply #231 on: July 14, 2019, 08:30:49 PM »
On 5 October 2012, police officially designated the case a murder inquiry; even though a body had not been found, this was the first indication that the police now had reason to believe that April Jones is dead.[21] Sky News presenter Kay Burley was accused of insensitivity after breaking the news of Jones' probable death live on-air to volunteers who had been searching for her. The interviewees were unaware the case had changed from a search for a missing person into a murder inquiry.[22][23][24]

On 6 October, Bridger was charged with child abduction, murder, and attempting to pervert the course of justice.[1]

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https://www.countytimes.co.uk/news/15833286.missing-april-jones-fund-to-be-registered-as-a-charity/

News
8th November 2012
Missing April Jones' fund to be registered as a charity
By Barry Jones
   

APRIL’S Fund, which now stands at around £40,000, is to be registered with the Charities Commission. 

The fund was set up as a result of money being handed in at Y Plas to support the search teams, volunteers, the community and the family of missing girl April Jones.

——

Hope that suffices.

No I meant this part

“Meanwhile the cash was in the Jones’ bank account.”
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: The 'Find Madeleine Campaign' Helpful or Harmful?
« Reply #232 on: July 14, 2019, 08:39:49 PM »
On 5 October 2012, police officially designated the case a murder inquiry; even though a body had not been found, this was the first indication that the police now had reason to believe that April Jones is dead.[21]
Sky News presenter Kay Burley was accused of insensitivity after breaking the news of Jones' probable death live on-air to volunteers who had been searching for her. The interviewees were unaware the case had changed from a search for a missing person into a murder inquiry.
[22][23][24]

On 6 October, Bridger was charged with child abduction, murder, and attempting to pervert the course of justice.[1]

——

https://www.countytimes.co.uk/news/15833286.missing-april-jones-fund-to-be-registered-as-a-charity/

News
8th November 2012
Missing April Jones' fund to be registered as a charity
By Barry Jones
   

APRIL’S Fund, which now stands at around £40,000, is to be registered with the Charities Commission. 

The fund was set up as a result of money being handed in at Y Plas to support the search teams, volunteers, the community and the family of missing girl April Jones.

——

Hope that suffices.

'Sky News presenter Kay Burley was accused of insensitivity after breaking the news of Jones' probable death live on-air to volunteers who had been searching for her. The interviewees were unaware the case had changed from a search for a missing person into a murder inquiry.'


I remember watching that as it happened.
I'd always thought Kay Burley was a horrible old witch & that incident further strengthened my opinion.
Christian Brueckner Fan Club

Offline faithlilly

Re: The 'Find Madeleine Campaign' Helpful or Harmful?
« Reply #233 on: July 14, 2019, 08:42:31 PM »
'Sky News presenter Kay Burley was accused of insensitivity after breaking the news of Jones' probable death live on-air to volunteers who had been searching for her. The interviewees were unaware the case had changed from a search for a missing person into a murder inquiry.'


I remember watching that as it happened.
I'd always thought Kay Burley was a horrible old witch & that incident further strengthened my opinion.

I believe one of her colleagues got fired for slapping her.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: The 'Find Madeleine Campaign' Helpful or Harmful?
« Reply #234 on: July 14, 2019, 08:43:13 PM »
No I meant this part

“Meanwhile the cash was in the Jones’ bank account.”
No, , but the money would have to have been kept in a bank account, and the familiy’s own bank account would have been a sensible short term measure.   Whether it was or not, I don’t know but the fact is no charity was set up until hope for April had gone. 
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline faithlilly

Re: The 'Find Madeleine Campaign' Helpful or Harmful?
« Reply #235 on: July 14, 2019, 08:57:33 PM »
No, , but the money would have to have been kept in a bank account, and the familiy’s own bank account would have been a sensible short term measure.   Whether it was or not, I don’t know but the fact is no charity was set up until hope for April had gone.

So there is no evidence that any donated money was ever in the Jones’s account ?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: The 'Find Madeleine Campaign' Helpful or Harmful?
« Reply #236 on: July 14, 2019, 09:10:06 PM »
So there is no evidence that any donated money was ever in the Jones’s account ?
Who do you think I am?  Enid O’Dowd?  I’ve already answered haven’t I?  Do you want me to self flagellate?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: The 'Find Madeleine Campaign' Helpful or Harmful?
« Reply #237 on: July 14, 2019, 09:13:07 PM »
There you go, the April Jones collection was not without its critics either. 

Money collected by a town council after the murder of April Jones was outside its powers and should not have happened, an audit report has said.
Machynlleth Town Council banked £71,663 of public money before transferring it to April's fund - something it did not have the authority to do.
Auditor BDO said money offered by the public should have been refused.
The council said it was holding a meeting on 24 August to discuss the report's recommendations.
Y Plas, where the council is based in Machynlleth, became a hub for the search for April in October 2012, with people wanting to donate money.
The report said: "The council had no power to collect this money or to establish a bank account for its retention, but ultimately they did not intend to collect the money, they were just given it by the public.
"When people came into the office and gave them money they should not have accepted the money."
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline faithlilly

Re: The 'Find Madeleine Campaign' Helpful or Harmful?
« Reply #238 on: July 14, 2019, 09:14:55 PM »
Who do you think I am?  Enid O’Dowd?  I’ve already answered haven’t I?  Do you want me to self flagellate?

So you made it up ? Why....and the ‘it would have been common sense’ doesn’t wash as the McCanns didn’t put donations in their own account either ?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: The 'Find Madeleine Campaign' Helpful or Harmful?
« Reply #239 on: July 14, 2019, 09:19:16 PM »
So you made it up ? Why....and the ‘it would have been common sense’ doesn’t wash as the McCanns didn’t put donations in their own account either ?
Yes I made it up.  Please continue to berate me and remind me of my evil actions at every opportunity for at least the next 10 years, thanks. 

In reality I made a mistake but I doubt that’s forgiveable as far as you’re concerned.  @)(++(*
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".