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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: The 'Find Madeleine Campaign' Helpful or Harmful?
« Reply #300 on: July 16, 2019, 07:04:50 AM »
Really? Is that what you believe? Please try to explain it seriously.
No I am not being serious, but this is the sort of explanation your question demands isn’t it?  I doubt you’d be satisfied with a more innocuous suggestion.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: The 'Find Madeleine Campaign' Helpful or Harmful?
« Reply #301 on: July 16, 2019, 08:05:09 AM »
All this just makes the case more bizarre, IMO. Can anyone explain why the parents got such high level assistance from the Government, from a former Government spin doctor, from the Prime Minister, from insiders in the Leicestershire Police, from the Pope??

I agree.  Millions of parents all over the world who share the McCanns faith have suffered tragic consequences with their children: accidents, natural disasters, illness, separation etc, etc and no 1 to 1 with the Pope.  The whole circus was absolutely ridiculous imo and completely counter-productive.

Quite ironic too given the Catholic church's record on child sex abuse and abuse in general.

And if the Catholic church had its way we would not even be here mass debating  8)><(
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: The 'Find Madeleine Campaign' Helpful or Harmful?
« Reply #302 on: July 16, 2019, 08:26:59 AM »
I agree.  Millions of parents all over the world who share the McCanns faith have suffered tragic consequences with their children: accidents, natural disasters, illness, separation etc, etc and no 1 to 1 with the Pope.  The whole circus was absolutely ridiculous imo and completely counter-productive.

Quite ironic too given the Catholic church's record on child sex abuse and abuse in general.

And if the Catholic church had its way we would not even be here mass debating  8)><(
If this was just any old tragedy why are we still talking about it 12 years later?
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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: The 'Find Madeleine Campaign' Helpful or Harmful?
« Reply #303 on: July 16, 2019, 08:32:05 AM »
If this was just any old tragedy why are we still talking about it 12 years later?

Because there's reason to believe the parents dunnit?

That's why I'm here.
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Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: The 'Find Madeleine Campaign' Helpful or Harmful?
« Reply #304 on: July 16, 2019, 09:54:09 AM »
If this was just any old tragedy why are we still talking about it 12 years later?

Well there's no doubt whatsoever it is a tragedy for MM whatever has happened to her. 

Some will think they've concluded the case in their own minds but technically, legally it is unsolved.  Humans imo have an in-built desire to want to solve mysteries and problems.   This case is high profile and contentious as such the likes of ourselves are motivated to spend time analysing the case trying to solve the puzzle if you will.  It's not the only case discussed online.  Many other cases are discussed here and the likes of The Jeremy Bamber Forum, Injustice Anywhere Forum and International Skeptics Forum. 

The case here seems to have attracted a dozen or so regular contributors and about 200 guests but there's currently some 7 billion people on the planet so interest is low in terms of people wanting to get involved in online discussion. 
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: The 'Find Madeleine Campaign' Helpful or Harmful?
« Reply #305 on: July 16, 2019, 09:56:50 AM »
And this sort of forum is in its infancy.  Once a case is cracked online then it will open up all sorts of opportunities and possibilities. 
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline G-Unit

Re: The 'Find Madeleine Campaign' Helpful or Harmful?
« Reply #306 on: July 16, 2019, 10:01:26 AM »
If this was just any old tragedy why are we still talking about it 12 years later?

Because it wasn't allowed to fade from people's awareness? The never ending media stories, the suing of the newspapers, the documentaries, the long runnung case against Anaral et al......
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: The 'Find Madeleine Campaign' Helpful or Harmful?
« Reply #307 on: July 16, 2019, 10:02:35 AM »
And this sort of forum is in its infancy.  Once a case is cracked online then it will open up all sorts of opportunities and possibilities.

I think you mean IF a case is cracked online... These discussions have been going on for 12 years Re this case..

I don't see it being cracked by any of the armchair detectives

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: The 'Find Madeleine Campaign' Helpful or Harmful?
« Reply #308 on: July 16, 2019, 10:22:32 AM »
I think you mean IF a case is cracked online... These discussions have been going on for 12 years Re this case..

I don't see it being cracked by any of the armchair detectives

Cases have already been cracked online. 

Remind me how long the official investigations have been going on?  Remind me of all those who investigate such cases for a living eg Mark Williams Thomas, David James Smith, Anthony Summers and Robyn Swan how have they advanced anything in recent cases they've reviewed?

Like all things in life there are armchair detectives and armchair detectives  8(0(*   Imo those most likely to succeed in cracking a case are those who avoid spats, accept the views of others and always keep an open mind.
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: The 'Find Madeleine Campaign' Helpful or Harmful?
« Reply #309 on: July 16, 2019, 10:29:09 AM »
Cases have already been cracked online. 

Remind me how long the official investigations have been going on?  Remind me of all those who investigate such cases for a living eg Mark Williams Thomas, David James Smith, Anthony Summers and Robyn Swan how have they advanced anything in recent cases they've reviewed?

Like all things in life there are armchair detectives and armchair detectives  8(0(*   Imo those most likely to succeed in cracking a case are those who avoid spats, accept the views of others and always keep an open mind.


Could you give me a couple of cites of cases being cracked online... I think you are totally mistaken if you think I for one don't have an open mind... I certainly do.. And, I think I have, a, far better understanding of the evidence than most on here...
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Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: The 'Find Madeleine Campaign' Helpful or Harmful?
« Reply #310 on: July 16, 2019, 10:33:05 AM »
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: The 'Find Madeleine Campaign' Helpful or Harmful?
« Reply #311 on: July 16, 2019, 10:36:34 AM »

Could you give me a couple of cites of cases being cracked online... I think you are totally mistaken if you think I for one don't have an open mind... I certainly do.. And, I think I have, a, far better understanding of the evidence than most on here...

Did I say anything about you personally in my previous post?

The fact you think you have a far better understanding of the evidence than most on here is your subjective opinion.  It is not an objective fact.
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: The 'Find Madeleine Campaign' Helpful or Harmful?
« Reply #312 on: July 16, 2019, 10:37:46 AM »
https://www.insider.com/crimes-solved-by-people-online-2018-5

The first example on your link is, a person who had, their laptop stolen and, was, able, to turn it on and view the perp... Is, that really the sort of example you are relying on it doesn't  support your claim in the slightest

Offline Mr Gray

Re: The 'Find Madeleine Campaign' Helpful or Harmful?
« Reply #313 on: July 16, 2019, 10:38:53 AM »
Did I say anything about you personally in my previous post?

The fact you think you have a far better understanding of the evidence than most on here is your subjective opinion.  It is not an objective fact.

As your opinion is totally subjective.. ..

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: The 'Find Madeleine Campaign' Helpful or Harmful?
« Reply #314 on: July 16, 2019, 10:43:48 AM »
The first example on your link is, a person who had, their laptop stolen and, was, able, to turn it on and view the perp... Is, that really the sort of example you are relying on it doesn't  support your claim in the slightest

Oh I thought you said you had an open mind?

The title:

"8 times crimes were solved by the internet"

Why not read about the other 7 cases and then respond?
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?