Is It Possible For A Non Professional Investigator To Solve The Case?

[Holly Goodhead]

The testimony of their handlers

Yes of course they may have been scenting MM's earlier movements and/or the second dog may have simply followed the first but it also might mean that MM was placed in a car in the immediate vicinity hence neither dog tracked outside the immediate vicinity. 

[Mr Gray]

Yes of course they may have been scenting MM's earlier movements and/or the second dog may have simply followed the first but it also might mean that MM was placed in a car in the immediate vicinity hence neither dog tracked outside the immediate vicinity.

So Maddie MAY have been placed in a car... Nothing definite

[Holly Goodhead]

So Maddie MAY have been placed in a car... Nothing definite

As I've previously stated my theory/suspect(s) had a legitimate reason to be in close proximity to 5A along with a vehicle.  The dogs did not scent MM outside immediate vicinity.  I believe the reason for this is that MM was placed in my suspects vehicle parked up near to 5A hence the dogs did not scent outside immediate vicinity. 

[Mr Gray]

As I've previously stated my theory/suspect(s) had a legitimate reason to be in close proximity to 5A along with a vehicle.  The dogs did not scent MM outside immediate vicinity.  I believe the reason for this is that MM was placed in my suspects vehicle parked up near to 5A hence the dogs did not scent outside immediate vicinity.

And the dogs may or may not support that... I understand  your alleged perp had a legitimate reason to be around 5a... And could make a legitimate reason for entering 5a... I just don't think there is, any evidence to support your theory... It's fairly obvious who you are referring to

[Brietta]

And the dogs may or may not support that... I understand  your alleged perp had a legitimate reason to be around 5a... And could make a legitimate reason for entering 5a... I just don't think there is, any evidence to support your theory... It's fairly obvious who you, are, referring to

I think it is old hat; if I am correct Misty mentioned the individual if not by name and possible scenarios on the forum many years ago; it was perfectly feasible then and possibly remains perfectly feasible now but I think present investigators will be aware of it without amateur assistance.

[Holly Goodhead]

And the dogs may or may not support that... I understand  your alleged perp had a legitimate reason to be around 5a... And could make a legitimate reason for entering 5a... I just don't think there is, any evidence to support your theory... It's fairly obvious who you are referring to

Did my suspect(s) have a legitimate reason to enter 5A    I don't think anyone had a legitimate reason to enter 5A other than those who paid to rent it for the week, those who were given permission to enter by those who paid to rent it for a week and those who were paid by OC to maintain 5A eg maintenance personnel and cleaners none of whom had a legitimate right to enter 5A during the evening. 

The S&R dogs are just one aspect that support my suspect(s)/theory.  On the other hand the dogs do not support Tannerman or Smithman.  People can decide for themselves what they choose to believe or not to believe. 

[Holly Goodhead]

I think it is old hat; if I am correct Misty mentioned the individual if not by name and possible scenarios on the forum many years ago; it was perfectly feasible then and possibly remains perfectly feasible now but I think present investigators will be aware of it without amateur assistance.

It must have been something John overlooked then?

I would have hoped that the individuals concerned had been scrutinised already.

Holly's theory is certainly plausible and as I haven't seen it suggested here previously, full marks for thinking outside the box.

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[Mr Gray]

Did my suspect(s) have a legitimate reason to enter 5A    I don't think anyone had a legitimate reason to enter 5A other than those who paid to rent it for the week, those who were given permission to enter by those who paid to rent it for a week and those who were paid by OC to maintain 5A eg maintenance personnel and cleaners none of whom had a legitimate right to enter 5A during the evening. 

The S&R dogs are just one aspect that support my suspect(s)/theory.  On the other hand the dogs do not support Tannerman or Smithman.  People can decide for themselves what they choose to believe or not to believe.

Others would have a legitimate reason to enter 5a... Mrs Fenn fir instance if she heard a child crying for an hour

And of course Mrs Fenns daughter

[Holly Goodhead]

Others would have a legitimate reason to enter 5a... Mrs Fenn fir instance if she heard a child crying for an hour

And of course Mrs Fenns daughter

I don't think Mrs Fenn would have a legitimate reason to enter 5A no matter how long she heard a child crying for.  If she was concerned she could visit or call OC.   

Afaik Mrs Fenn didn't have a daughter?

[barrier]

I don't think Mrs Fenn would have a legitimate reason to enter 5A no matter how long she heard a child crying for.  If she was concerned she could visit or call OC.   

Afaik Mrs Fenn didn't have a daughter?

Her niece wasn't it visiting?

[Mr Gray]

I don't think Mrs Fenn would have a legitimate reason to enter 5A no matter how long she heard a child crying for.  If she was concerned she could visit or call OC.   

Afaik Mrs Fenn didn't have a daughter?

I think she, would have every reason.... Particularly if the door was open... Who was Carole Tranter... Wasn't she connected to Mrs Fenn

[Mr Gray]

Her niece wasn't it visiting?

Yes... The one who travelled throughout the EU... The one whose testimony Holly has, questioned

[Holly Goodhead]

I think she, would have every reason.... Particularly if the door was open... Who was Carole Tranter... Wasn't she connected to Mrs Fenn

Afaik the McCanns didn't leave any doors open?   

I believe Carole Tranmer was Mrs Fenn's niece. 

No one had a right to enter 5A without the McCanns permission.  Even law enforcement would require some sort of warrant if not invited in.

[Holly Goodhead]

Yes... The one who travelled throughout the EU... The one whose testimony Holly has, questioned

Where's the evidence the niece travelled throughout the EU?

[Mr Gray]

Afaik the McCanns didn't leave any doors open?   

I believe Carole Tranmer was Mrs Fenn's niece. 

No one had a right to enter 5A without the McCanns permission.  Even law enforcement would require some sort of warrant if not invited in.

Afaiaa... The patio door was left open.. Mrs fenn heard it opening... If it was locked it couldn't be opened from the outside
If a child was thought to be injured or in distress that would be a legitimate  reason to enter