Is It Possible For A Non Professional Investigator To Solve The Case?

[barrier]

Remembering of course that there are no-go areas in this investigation.

IMO the truth of what happened to Maddie is contained within the threads of this forum, the question is which ones.

The sticking point is imo,how did she leave 5a.

[Holly Goodhead]

This is the second example on here of what I think of as a 'secret squirrel' theory. These theories can be criticised but not debunked because those proposing them claim to know more, but refuse to share their knowledge. Both theorists claim to have contacted OG, but don't offer any evidence that they have done that.

In my opinion both theorists enjoy the attention they get by being mysterious.

I sent my theory/suspects to John and Myster.  I've had some problem sending emails to John so have now sent via the pm facility. 

With regard to evidence that I've contacted OG I will send the automated response email received from OG to Myster. 

If I enjoy the attention then why I have waited so long to make such a claim.  Don't forget I've been a very active member of this forum far longer than you guys.  There's more to UKJF than the MM board.  Some have made all sorts of claims re Bamber eg claims of a 'forensic evidence breakthrough' something I haven't done.  I could say a lot more about the Bamber case with regards to contact with forensics but I haven't.  Imo many here have become tunnel visioned and can't see the wood for the trees.  I've not seen any of the regulars here on other boards? 

[Mr Gray]

I sent my theory/suspects to John and Myster.  I've had some problem sending emails to John so have now sent via the pm facility. 

With regard to evidence that I've contacted OG I will send the automated response email received from OG to Myster. 

If I enjoy the attention then why I have waited so long to make such a claim.  Don't forget I've been a very active member of this forum far longer than you guys.  There's more to UKJF than the MM board.  Some have made all sorts of claims re Bamber eg claims of a 'forensic evidence breakthrough' something I haven't done.  I could say a lot more about the Bamber case with regards to contact with forensics but I haven't.  Imo many here have become tunnel visioned and can't see the wood for the trees.  I've not seen any of the regulars here on other boards?

It really is quiote simple...you THINK you have solved the case....I think thats a ridiculous claim and questions your credibility

[Holly Goodhead]

You announce to the world that you have solved the case after six weeks of studying it and then shut down any attempt to discuss it further. If your efforts were so important and serious and secrecy absolutely paramount you should have kept quiet about it.

Oh come off it G-Unit...announce to the world you mean the board here with about a dozen or so regular contributors and a hundred odd guests that Davel has written off as bots!  I haven't seen any headlines in The Sun yet 'Former Bond Girl Solves The Maddie Mystery'!

Who said my efforts were so important and serious and secrecy absolutely paramount? 

The world moves on.  We're basically now all connected thanks to the internet and in this case with the release of the PJ files its pretty simply to work out what has happened imo.

[Holly Goodhead]

It really is quiote simple...you THINK you have solved the case....I think thats a ridiculous claim and questions your credibility

And I think you overuse the word ridiculous to the point anyone reading your posts will have become desensitised to it. 

[Holly Goodhead]

If I were to write in and say John Doe from Ecclefechan is holding Madeleine as a housekeeper,do you think OG would investigate or dismiss it for what it is.

Apologies if there is indeed a John Doe residing up in Ecclefechan.

OG and anyone tasked with investigating on a professional basis will surely consider all info based on merit. 

Take for example the case of Joanna Yeates in the early days investigators had Christopher Jefferies in sight and yet he was nothing other than a completely law abiding citizen who just happened to by JY's landlord and lived in close proximity to her. 

What I see in a lot of these cases is prejudice where potential perps are discriminated against either negatively or positively.  Professionals and lay people quickly form opinions about others and woe betide anyone who is slightly different.  In the case of CJ  he was perceived by many as an eccentric English teacher with a quirky dress sense, an unkempt hairstyle and grubby fingernails.  Whereas the true perp was Vincent Tabak a highly qualified engineer with a clean cut look about him. 

[G-Unit]

And I think you overuse the word ridiculous to the point anyone reading your posts will have become desensitised to it.

I've already become desensiticised to the phrase 'can't see the wood for the trees'. 

[barrier]

OG and anyone tasked with investigating on a professional basis will surely consider all info based on merit. 

Take for example the case of Joanna Yeates in the early days investigators had Christopher Jefferies in sight and yet he was nothing other than a completely law abiding citizen who just happened to by JY's landlord and lived in close proximity to her. 

What I see in a lot of these cases is prejudice where potential perps are discriminated against either negatively or positively.  Professionals and lay people quickly form opinions about others and woe betide anyone who is slightly different.  In the case of CJ  he was perceived by many as an eccentric English teacher with a quirky dress sense, an unkempt hairstyle and grubby fingernails.  Whereas the true perp was Vincent Tabak a highly qualified engineer with a clean cut look about him.

The red tops went after Jefferies,enough said.

[barrier]

OG and anyone tasked with investigating on a professional basis will surely consider all info based on merit. 

Take for example the case of Joanna Yeates in the early days investigators had Christopher Jefferies in sight and yet he was nothing other than a completely law abiding citizen who just happened to by JY's landlord and lived in close proximity to her. 

What I see in a lot of these cases is prejudice where potential perps are discriminated against either negatively or positively.  Professionals and lay people quickly form opinions about others and woe betide anyone who is slightly different.  In the case of CJ  he was perceived by many as an eccentric English teacher with a quirky dress sense, an unkempt hairstyle and grubby fingernails.  Whereas the true perp was Vincent Tabak a highly qualified engineer with a clean cut look about him.

I'll ask again you may have missed the question,what is it about your theory that is unlikely to have been looked at before,what do you suppose is the key in your theory.

[Holly Goodhead]

I'll ask again you may have missed the question,what is it about your theory that is unlikely to have been looked at before,what do you suppose is the key in your theory.

I don't believe my suspects have been considered by investigators as potential perps on the basis they put themselves forward as someone who could potentially assist. 

Info provided by my suspects is contradictory and inconsistent.  Coupled with the fact it doesn't match info found elsewhere in the public domain eg electoral roll. 

On paper my suspects look unlikely child abductors regardless of motive which obviously I can't be sure.  I think they've been allowed to slip under the radar.

[sadie]

This is the second example on here of what I think of as a 'secret squirrel' theory. These theories can be criticised but not debunked because those proposing them claim to know more, but refuse to share their knowledge. Both theorists claim to have contacted OG, but don't offer any evidence that they have done that.

In my opinion both theorists enjoy the attention they get by being mysterious.

 

You keep it quiet Holly.   And Anthro as well.  Anyone else too.

There are children being  abducted and I worry that I may have already said more than was wise.   SY were definitely interested in my main theory about what happened afterwards


I hope that one of us is right.
it would be nice if it was me, but the important thing is not WHO solved it ... but that children are saved and no more taken


I wonder if the person you have identified is related somehow to my main suspect.  If she is, there are a number of pointers connecting her to the case and, of course, to my suspect.   But we shall never know unless SY charge someone, some people, cos I aint sharing..

[barrier]

I don't believe my suspects have been considered by investigators as potential perps on the basis they put themselves forward as someone who could potentially assist. 

Info provided by my suspects is contradictory and inconsistent.  Coupled with the fact it doesn't match info found elsewhere in the public domain eg electoral roll. 

On paper my suspects look unlikely child abductors regardless of motive which obviously I can't be sure.  I think they've been allowed to slip under the radar.

Thank you.

[John]

OG and anyone tasked with investigating on a professional basis will surely consider all info based on merit. 

Take for example the case of Joanna Yeates in the early days investigators had Christopher Jefferies in sight and yet he was nothing other than a completely law abiding citizen who just happened to by JY's landlord and lived in close proximity to her. 

What I see in a lot of these cases is prejudice where potential perps are discriminated against either negatively or positively.  Professionals and lay people quickly form opinions about others and woe betide anyone who is slightly different.  In the case of CJ  he was perceived by many as an eccentric English teacher with a quirky dress sense, an unkempt hairstyle and grubby fingernails.  Whereas the true perp was Vincent Tabak a highly qualified engineer with a clean cut look about him.

Police tasked with investigating any child disappearance should look at every possibility regardless of how implausible it might be.

[Holly Goodhead]

Police tasked with investigating any child disappearance should look at every possibility regardless of how implausible it might be.

Yes I agree.  From all that I've read so far (excl T9) the potential perps all seem to be male ranging from RM to ultra creepy looking men with pimples and buck teeth through to high profile paedophiles. 

What about females?  What about seemingly 'normal' looking males?  The perp(s) might have been suffering from some mild mental illness possibly brought on by some personal trauma or have a drink/drug problem. 

[Angelo222]

It really is quiote simple...you THINK you have solved the case....I think thats a ridiculous claim and questions your credibility

Be nice Davel.