Is It Possible For A Non Professional Investigator To Solve The Case?

[Anthro]

Hi Barrier, this person was only indirectly linked to Madeleine’s case because Martin Ney was first suspected in the Verstappen case until DNA results ruled him out and this man 100% in. Ney also came up in Madeleine’s case.

[The General]

I have a vague recollection that you have said this in the past, but to be honest it had not sunk in.

If you feel you are in a position to elaborate further on this, please do.  It would certainly be much more pertinent to the debate than other recent offerings.

 

Well the events that led up to it are very vague, to the point where I don't really remember what happened. But the actual act of being taken and re-homed is indelibly etched - down to conversations. So obviously the 'trauma' of the event created stronger neural pathways for me. I assume it's the same for others.
Incidentally, I turned out to be a well-adjusted, upstanding member of society and had no discernible detrimental effect to my development.......honest.

[Vertigo Swirl]

If I was wealthy I would own several properties within the Schengen zone and move from property to property as and when I chose.

As it so happens, we are currently trying to relocate within the Schengen zone, being the undoubted nomads that we are.

As we are not flying under the radar, readers will be able to find out about our travails on my blog.

If someone asked me where you resided currently I would say Portugal and I would be right.  That is why my question to Holly was perfectly valid, and your answer to it not helpful in the least.  At least we have cleared that one up.  Now, over to Holly.

[barrier]

Hi Barrier, this person was only indirectly linked to Madeleine’s case because Martin Ney was first suspected in the Verstappen case until DNA results ruled him out and this man 100% in. Ney also came up in Madeleine’s case.

The tractor driver Monteiro came up also or so the story goes,but DNA ruled him out,just supposing there is unidentified DNA then this would likely rule these other two out,non starter imo.

[Mr Gray]

Well the events that led up to it are very vague, to the point where I don't really remember what happened. But the actual act of being taken and re-homed is indelibly etched - down to conversations. So obviously the 'trauma' of the event created stronger neural pathways for me. I assume it's the same for others.
Incidentally, I turned out to be a well-adjusted, upstanding member of society and had no discernible detrimental effect to my development.......honest.

precisely el capitan......If Maddie was suddenly without her family that would be an extremely traumatic event over weeks and months and would be indelibly etched as you rightly say..

[ShiningInLuz]

Well the events that led up to it are very vague, to the point where I don't really remember what happened. But the actual act of being taken and re-homed is indelibly etched - down to conversations. So obviously the 'trauma' of the event created stronger neural pathways for me. I assume it's the same for others.
Incidentally, I turned out to be a well-adjusted, upstanding member of society and had no discernible detrimental effect to my development.......honest.

Thank you.

If you are willing to share, may I ask you which general type of environment you moved to?

I would think a relocation within the family would be less stressful than to one with caring foster parents, which in turn would be less stressful than institutionalisation.

If I am prying too much, just let me know.  I am grateful for the information you have already provided.   

[Mr Gray]

Thank you.

If you are willing to share, may I ask you which general type of environment you moved to?

I would think a relocation within the family would be less stressful than to one with caring foster parents, which in turn would be less stressful than institutionalisation.

If I am prying too much, just let me know.  I am grateful for the information you have already provided.   

I dont think that is in the slightest relevant...from the information already given its been shown that in this case  a traumatic event is etched in memory of a four year old. ....as  previously suggested.....Maddies relocation would have been even more traumatic

[The General]

Thank you.

If you are willing to share, may I ask you which general type of environment you moved to?

I would think a relocation within the family would be less stressful than to one with caring foster parents, which in turn would be less stressful than institutionalisation.

If I am prying too much, just let me know.  I am grateful for the information you have already provided.   

My brother and I were moved to family members - he was 6 I was 4. As Davros rightly alludes to, it took months to re-settle me in particular. My brother adjusted quicker as he was older, obviously.

[Myster]

Did the MET say that or did the papers say the MET said that,world of difference.

Rowley: There are odd headlines and odd stories in newspapers on a regular basis and most of those are
nonsense.

Mea culpa, Anthro is correct to say that only Ney was tentatively linked to the MM case, but not pursued.  Both OG and PJ are keeping schtum about their latest suspect (May 2019).  I wonder if the woman who described spotty man in 2007 has kept up with events online and recognised Brech to be one and the same, or has even been interviewed again?

https://www.cqnews.com.au/news/cops-probing-new-maddie-mccann-suspect-after-scotl/3718369/

[G-Unit]

Were you removed from your family, at age four?

I believe G-Unit has said she was adopted at an early age, so perhaps her memories and experiences are more relevant?

I remember arriving in a taxi at my adoptive parent's home at the age of two. Strangely I remember nothing of where I was immediately before the journey.

[Mr Gray]

I think this makes hollys theory a total non starter as Msddie would remember being taken from her family

[ShiningInLuz]

I remember arriving in a taxi at my adoptive parent's home at the age of two. Strangely I remember nothing of where I was immediately before the journey.

Many thanks for the refresh - I don't track members' detailed histories, only the gist.

It would appear we now have two active members ideally placed to evaluate this part of Holly's theory from personal experience, as opposed to those speculating from the outside.

[Anthro]

Hi Davel, I agree but it is possible that if Madeleine is currently in that situation, that she has been told her parents could no longer care for her and gave her away. I also have memories as a 4-year old but think that at that age you will believe anything an adult tells you, especially if you cannot find any trace of your parents and siblings.

[Mr Gray]

Many thanks for the refresh - I don't track members' detailed histories, only the gist.

It would appear we now have two active members ideally placed to evaluate this part of Holly's theory from personal experience, as opposed to those speculating from the outside.

you may have missed the point that It was myself that raised the point which basically invalidates hollys theory.....i wonder if she considered this point in her 5 A4 page missive

[Mr Gray]

Hi Davel, I agree but it is possible that if Madeleine is currently in that situation, that she has been told her parents could no longer care for her and gave her away. I also have memories as a 4-year old but think that at that age you will believe anything an adult tells you, especially if you cannot find any trace of your parents and siblings.

we are talking about memories based on traumatic circumstances.....at 4 maddie would still have memories of her parents and siblings....I think this blows a massive hole in hollys theory and again i wonder if she has covered the point already.

At 4 I was taken from my parents and admitted to hospital....I have  a memory of a long sloping corridor and being wheeled screaming in a wicker basket on wheels. Years later i was  at the hospital and there was the long sloping corridor...from A and E to the wards just as I remembered it