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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is It Possible For A Non Professional Investigator To Solve The Case?
« Reply #495 on: October 10, 2019, 10:32:49 AM »
With this post you obviously are.

No you are...give it a rest

Offline Anthro

Re: Is It Possible For A Non Professional Investigator To Solve The Case?
« Reply #496 on: October 10, 2019, 10:52:38 AM »
Hi Holly, aren’t ‘mark’ and ‘blemish’ just layman’s terms for ‘coloboma’?

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: Is It Possible For A Non Professional Investigator To Solve The Case?
« Reply #497 on: October 10, 2019, 10:54:44 AM »
You need to do better than quote Wikipedia... It's results don't tally with experiences here. Neither does it refer to extremely traumatic events... Your theory may have many more holes but this is certainly one

The Wiki link is certainly more reliable than the anecdotal 'evidence' bandied about here. 

Which extremely traumatic event are you referring to?  The one described by Mrs Fenn whereby she claims she heard MM crying and calling 'daddy, daddy' in what would have been an unfamiliar environment to MM, between 10.30 pm and 11.45 pm on 1st May which got louder and more expressive as time went on; or the possibility MM might have awoken in an unfamiliar environment with strangers who might well have been of a kindly disposition and responsive to her needs?   

Why are you so keen for my theory/suspects to be wrong? 
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Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: Is It Possible For A Non Professional Investigator To Solve The Case?
« Reply #498 on: October 10, 2019, 10:57:46 AM »
Hi Holly, aren’t ‘mark’ and ‘blemish’ just layman’s terms for ‘coloboma’?

I have similar marks on my iris which are only really visible in certain lights.  I can't see anything on formal docs re a coloboma. 

Someone here suggested it was used as a marketing tool in the early days. 
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline G-Unit

Re: Is It Possible For A Non Professional Investigator To Solve The Case?
« Reply #499 on: October 10, 2019, 11:05:02 AM »
Although I'm confident about my theory/suspects I've already said in posts I can't be sure of the motive.  It could range from altruistic, raise as own, to sinister, Brady/Hindley. 

If raise as own we've already covered that there's no evidence the blemish/mark in MM's eye was an actual Colombo as per her passport etc.  When PJ asked the McCanns about identifying features they refer to a blemish/mark in her eye and some sort of birthmark on a leg.  From memory I don't believe KM's book refers to a Colombo. 

Re childhood memories all the research shows

Most people have no memory prior to three years of age, and few memories between three and six years of age, as verified by analysis of the forgetting curve in adults recalling childhood memories.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Childhood_memory

If MM was abducted to raise as own and her abductors a) stuck to a story early on 'why her parents parted with her' or how she was 'found' and b) thereafter provided a good home her loyalties will switch to her abductors which she might well have been with for 75% of her life now. 

An anology might be religion whereby a child brought up in a home where religion plays a significant part of daily life will in all probability follow suit.  Conversely a child brought up in a secular home will in all probability follow suit.  The same can often be said for political allegiances too and even football teams!  Beliefs are formed at a young age and shaped by what goes on in the child's environment.  Of course once the child reaches adolescence/adulthood then he/she might challenge their own beliefs but imo this is not the norm.

You can see with KM she has herself down as a Catholic and Everton supporter as this was how she was raised.  In her book she says she did not at any time question her Catholic faith as this was simply how she was raised.   

When I was growing up almost everyone belonged to a religion and attended church on Sundays, including me. By the time I was 20 years old few of my generation belonged to a religion or attended church regularly. I think that was one of the defining trends of the 1960's, and the rejection of organised religion has continued ever since.
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Offline Anthro

Re: Is It Possible For A Non Professional Investigator To Solve The Case?
« Reply #500 on: October 10, 2019, 11:11:04 AM »
Yet, in these pictures the blemish seems clearly visible, so I don’t know about the marketing ploy claim.

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Offline Myster

It's one of them cases, in'it... one of them f*ckin' cases.

Offline barrier

Re: Is It Possible For A Non Professional Investigator To Solve The Case?
« Reply #502 on: October 10, 2019, 11:39:58 AM »
The Wiki link is certainly more reliable than the anecdotal 'evidence' bandied about here. 

Which extremely traumatic event are you referring to?  The one described by Mrs Fenn whereby she claims she heard MM crying and calling 'daddy, daddy' in what would have been an unfamiliar environment to MM, between 10.30 pm and 11.45 pm on 1st May which got louder and more expressive as time went on; or the possibility MM might have awoken in an unfamiliar environment with strangers who might well have been of a kindly disposition and responsive to her needs?   

Why are you so keen for my theory/suspects to be wrong? 


Hi Holly,I'm not sure Mrs Fenn identified who was crying.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is It Possible For A Non Professional Investigator To Solve The Case?
« Reply #503 on: October 10, 2019, 01:33:20 PM »
The Wiki link is certainly more reliable than the anecdotal 'evidence' bandied about here. 

Which extremely traumatic event are you referring to?  The one described by Mrs Fenn whereby she claims she heard MM crying and calling 'daddy, daddy' in what would have been an unfamiliar environment to MM, between 10.30 pm and 11.45 pm on 1st May which got louder and more expressive as time went on; or the possibility MM might have awoken in an unfamiliar environment with strangers who might well have been of a kindly disposition and responsive to her needs?   

Why are you so keen for my theory/suspects to be wrong?

The traumatic event is being seperated from her parents and siblings ....and being taken to live with strangers.








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Offline jassi

Re: Is It Possible For A Non Professional Investigator To Solve The Case?
« Reply #504 on: October 10, 2019, 01:46:10 PM »
Of course she may have lived  such a traumatic life for the last decade and more that memory of her distant past is completely obliterated.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is It Possible For A Non Professional Investigator To Solve The Case?
« Reply #505 on: October 10, 2019, 02:02:51 PM »
Of course she may have lived  such a traumatic life for the last decade and more that memory of her distant past is completely obliterated.

many things are possible but that would not fit hollys theory

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: Is It Possible For A Non Professional Investigator To Solve The Case?
« Reply #506 on: October 10, 2019, 02:24:54 PM »

Hi Holly,I'm not sure Mrs Fenn identified who was crying.

At the time of MM's disappearance Mrs Fenn was mother to 3 adult children and also had several grandchildren.  So I think it is safe to say she had considerable experience of managing small children unless she was some ultra remote figure. 

Her wit stat:

She also refers to the day of the 1st May 2007, when she was at home alone, at approximately 22.30 she heard a child cry, and that due the tone of the crying seemed to be a young child and not a baby of two years of age or younger.

She said that until that night she had never spoken to the McCann's, because up until the 3rd May, she only sometimes saw them walking in the street.

https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/PAMELA_FENN.htm
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Brietta

Re: Is It Possible For A Non Professional Investigator To Solve The Case?
« Reply #507 on: October 10, 2019, 05:01:32 PM »
At the time of MM's disappearance Mrs Fenn was mother to 3 adult children and also had several grandchildren.  So I think it is safe to say she had considerable experience of managing small children unless she was some ultra remote figure. 

Her wit stat:

She also refers to the day of the 1st May 2007, when she was at home alone, at approximately 22.30 she heard a child cry, and that due the tone of the crying seemed to be a young child and not a baby of two years of age or younger.

She said that until that night she had never spoken to the McCann's, because up until the 3rd May, she only sometimes saw them walking in the street.

https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/PAMELA_FENN.htm

Is that a witness statement as we know it?

Mrs Fenn was English and she did not understand the spoken or written word in Portuguese.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Myster

Re: Is It Possible For A Non Professional Investigator To Solve The Case?
« Reply #508 on: October 10, 2019, 05:06:11 PM »
It says a police interpreter was present.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is It Possible For A Non Professional Investigator To Solve The Case?
« Reply #509 on: October 10, 2019, 05:07:45 PM »
It says a police interpreter was present.

We don't have a record of what Mrs Fenn said... Only a non verbatim account by a third party.... As Colin Sutton said... The room for error was enormous