Is It Possible For A Non Professional Investigator To Solve The Case?

[Mr Gray]

Hi Anthro,

No one else saw these jemmied shutters, blowing curtains, or moving doors. They managed to do quite a lot of things while a child is missing,suspected by paedophiles. 

"In my experience it is very likely that a child of that age would follow instructions from an adult, especially if for example the person is skilled in working/communicating with children."

I agree with this entirely, for any child in any situation it can be called 'grooming' but do not see this within the  realms of the time line of the McCanns claims. We need to agree to disagree on this part.

anthro is not talking about grooming....simply the language of persuasion

[Vertigo Swirl]

Different question, same analogy: Dig - Ok, Mickey, he's the boss, no question, a little naive, a little reckless. Vindictive? No. Heck, he's Steamboat Willie from the off, but incompetent - and lucky.
Goofy - what is he? A dog? No. He's a half-wit - Lennie Small, if you will, a Davel type, not much happening up there? A shiftless, gangly dude, feckless in a way, compassionate. But there's George completing the symbiosis.
He's a device. In it's own way your question is loaded - loaded with goofy - it's a device. Are you George? No. You're Donald - the quick-tempered, with semi-intelligible speech, coupled with mischievous and temperamental personality. In a sailor's costume. No gloves.

OK, you’ve resorted to insults. What a shame.  Semi-intelligble?  Really??  Deeply hurt. 

[The General]

OK, you’ve resorted to insults. What a shame.  Semi-intelligble?  Really??  Deeply hurt.

The uninitiated may take that at face value, but I know you've got the skin of an Aussie Gold Miner

[Mr Gray]

The uninitiated may take that at face value, but I know you've got the skin of an Aussie Gold Miner

VS may or may not ....i certainly do and dont take any offence at your post. Im quite confident and comfortable as to where my intellect places me on the Bell curve...

[Vertigo Swirl]

The uninitiated may take that at face value, but I know you've got the skin of an Aussie Gold Miner

That’s where you’re wrong.  You’re the omly sceptic on here whose views I respect, because I think you’re basically honest and decent.  So well done, your post hurt.  Had theycome from anyone else not so much.  No matter.  The gloves (that I don’t wear, having instead white feathers for hands) are off.  Quack, quack!!!!!!

[The General]

That’s where you’re wrong.  You’re the omly sceptic on here whose views I respect, because I think you’re basically honest and decent.  So well done, your post hurt.  Had theycome from anyone else not so much.  No matter.  The gloves (that I don’t wear, having instead white feathers for hands) are off.  Quack, quack!!!!!!

Yeh, I still think you're kidding.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Yeh, I still think you're kidding.

I don’t care what you think anymore *waddles off to quack furiously and semi-intelligibly  at Huey, Lewis and Dewie*

[Brietta]

‘ ... the jemmied shutters and open window and whooshing are all red herrings as is the 'moving door'.

Hi Miss Taken Identity, you identify four things that were intended to mislead the investigation. How could Madeleine’s parents and their friends fabricate all of this amidst a child being missing? In my opinion it is possible that Madeleine could have had in her mind the selective memory that she and her brother were scared and crying previously. Hypothetically, if she heard some sort of noise she would get up and look around and perhaps ask questions. In my experience it is very likely that a child of that age would follow instructions from an adult, especially if for example the person is skilled in working/communicating with children.

I agree with your synopsis Anthro, particularly if that person is known to the child.

[Mr Gray]

So what is the position Holly on the news you said you might have towards  the end of the week.... It's the end of the week

[Holly Goodhead]

So what is the position Holly on the news you said you might have towards  the end of the week.... It's the end of the week

I have carried out offline activities this week but it remains a work in progress    I will email John and Myster an update just to verify that I have this week been involved in offline activities as well as non-forum online activities. 

And yes I'm still firmly of the opinion that I'm right with my suspects/theory.  And yes I know you think I'm ridiculous/rubbish along with my posts 

[Mr Gray]

I have carried out offline activities this week but it remains a work in progress    I will email John and Myster an update just to verify that I have this week been involved in offline activities as well as non-forum online activities. 

And yes I'm still firmly of the opinion that I'm right with my suspects/theory.  And yes I know you think I'm ridiculous/rubbish along with my posts 

It isn't just me... Myster told us about your theory and he thinks it's ridiculous too..

[The General]

It isn't just me... Myster told us about your theory and he thinks it's ridiculous too..

Goading is allowed now? Sweet!

[Holly Goodhead]

Although I do not share a belief in Holly's theory.(what we know of it so far) I respect her right to air it,post it and believe it because she does it so elequently.

If I really had to believe in an abduction from the apartment- Holly's makes more sense than those parents and T9.


All due respect Anthro- the jemmied shutters and open window and whooshing are all red herrings as is the 'moving door'.

However, " The person might have known that Gerry and Jez were at the small gate and that Madeleine would have probably recognised her Dad’s voice and as being nearby. That would explain the head on the left arm and legs across right arm. She would not have put her shoes on, nor taken her blanket and cuddlecat because she was told that she would be taken to her parents, hence no comfort needed. Therefore no trace of a perpetrator entering/leaving 5A. This might bring back into the frame the Tanner/Smith sighting?"
this is a possibility, highly unlikely IMO.

Thanks Miss Taken Identity 

[Holly Goodhead]

It isn't just me... Myster told us about your theory and he thinks it's ridiculous too..

Interesting that wish to focus on what Myster said and not what John said ie it was plausible; he hadn't seen it suggested previously; showed I was thinking out the box! 

And Myster did not tell the forum about my theory. 

[Vertigo Swirl]

Interesting that wish to focus on what Myster said and not what John said ie it was plausible; he hadn't seen it suggested previously; showed I was thinking out the box! 

And Myster did not tell the forum about my theory.

So Mrs Fenn’s niece is categorically not your suspect then?