Fingerprints

[The General]

my point is obvious in the context of your post...whats your point in pretending you dont realise this

You're making assumptions.
The paragon of virtue that is Amnesty International, you mean: https://www.rte.ie/news/world/2019/0223/1032309-amnestys-toxic-culture-of-bullying-report/

[Holly Goodhead]

It was identified as belonging to a GNR officer.

Yes it was attributed to a male officer after several countries had been contacted requesting assistance over any match on databases.  All countries replied no match found but Germany went one step further and said it could have originated from a female or a youth but not a child. 

[ShiningInLuz]

Yes it was attributed to a male officer after several countries had been contacted requesting assistance over any match on databases.  All countries replied no match found but Germany went one step further and said it could have originated from a female or a youth but not a child.

The GNR officer was neither a female or a youth.

The print was identified.

[Robittybob1]

I've no idea what methods they used, do you?

Sounds like just the general size of the print.  Men's hands are larger than women's or youth's IMO.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I think the lack of success by OG after 8 years of effort indicates just how difficult this case has been right from the start.

Complaining about what should or should not have been done back in 2007  achieves nothing - IMO.

Unless it’s complaining about the parents “neglect” in which case it achieves everything, ob.

[jassi]

Unless it’s complaining about the parents “neglect” in which case it achieves everything, ob.

I reckon that's pretty futile also.

[Miss Taken Identity]

Yes it was attributed to a male officer after several countries had been contacted requesting assistance over any match on databases.  All countries replied no match found but Germany went one step further and said it could have originated from a female or a youth but not a child.

Could? hardly a scientific definition. could - maybe-somewhat. what do you think charlie?

Amnesty- the terrorists friend.

[G-Unit]

Yes it was attributed to a male officer after several countries had been contacted requesting assistance over any match on databases.  All countries replied no match found but Germany went one step further and said it could have originated from a female or a youth but not a child.

Based on no evidence at all, but who cares about evidence when PJ bashing?

[Holly Goodhead]

The GNR officer was neither a female or a youth.

The print was identified.

So we are led to believe but wouldn't you think they might have eliminated innocent contamination from GNR officers before seeking assistance from various countries?

[jassi]

So we are led to believe but wouldn't you think they might have eliminated innocent contamination from GNR officers before seeking assistance from various countries?

I can't understand your obsession with this point. What difference did it make to case progression ?

[Holly Goodhead]

Based on no evidence at all, but who cares about evidence when PJ bashing?

If they had no evidence how do you think they came to the conclusion that it could have originated from a woman or youth but not a small girl.

[jassi]

If they had no evidence how do you think they came to the conclusion that it could have originated from a woman or youth but not a small child.

Where is this information to be found? Is it in the files ?

[Holly Goodhead]

I can't understand your obsession with this point. What difference did it make to case progression ?

Well if Germany is correct and the fingerprint originates from a woman/youth it begs the question how PJ attributed it to a GNR officer?  I would have thought it was par for the course to eliminate innocent contamination from officers present at soc before seeking assistance from countries across the globe/Interpol.  It makes me wonder how competent they were overall. 

[jassi]

Well if Germany is correct and the fingerprint originates from a woman/youth it begs the question how PJ attributed it to a GNR officer?  I would have thought it was par for the course to eliminate innocent contamination from officers present at soc before seeking assistance from countries across the globe/Interpol.  It makes me wonder how competent they were overall.

And if Germany was wrong, then what ?

Can you say where their opinion is to be found?

[Holly Goodhead]

I can't understand your obsession with this point. What difference did it make to case progression ?

Moi obsessed

Well its the first evidence I have that all might not be what it seems!  I can't understand why PJ would farm out letters seeking assistance from other countries across the globe before eliminating the obvious ie officers present at soc. 

The patio door was left unsecured which just so happens to contain an unidentified fingerprint.
Potentially crucial evidence.  PJ seek assistance from countries across the globe all of whom are unable to find a match but Germany add it could have come from a woman or youth but not a young child.  Meantime PJ attribute it to a male GNR officer.

Did the lead detective have a theory and dismissed evidence pointing away from that theory?