Is There Any Connection Between The Disappearance of Joana Cipriano and MM?

[Holly Goodhead]

Can we cool it please and stick to the thread topic.  Thanks.

[Miss Taken Identity]

You're right. You have to be happy in life.
I find it intriguing the delineation in this associated case - 'supporters' call 'torture' and 'miscarriage of justice' and 'sceptics' call 'fair kop' and 'means to an end' (to a degree). Funny that, given the bearing on the reputation of GA.

I like to try to put myself in the other non-gender specific, carbon based unit's shoes (or moccasins)  - this was a heinous crime (allegedly), with two people known to the local police as ne'er do wells at best, they have the uncle in one room singing like Barry Manilow on a Cruise Ship - confessing to 'just killing her', and in the next room we have the specimen of a 'mother' telling whichever tale her lawyer thinks might get her the least time.
I'm gonna be straight, I don't think much coercion was required at any point. I think there's every chance the coppers gave both of them a hiding, and I'd have done exactly the same - does that make me a bad person? Yes. Tough shit.

Indeed!

I  share that sentiment  as well as the descisions made by Investigator Superintendent Steve Fulcher who got two childrens bodies back to their parents for burial. by 'forgetting' to give the killer his 'rights' that must have been torture  of sorts for that poor killer.

Investigator Superintendent Steve Fulcher lost his career, small price to pay I should imagine, can't just go around torturing poor defenceless citizens and denying them presumption of innocence.


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[Mr Gray]

Indeed!

I  share that sentiment  as well as the descisions made by Investigator Superintendent Steve Fulcher who got two childrens bodies back to their parents for burial. by 'forgetting' to give the killer his 'rights' that must have been torture  of sorts for that poor killer.

Investigator Superintendent Steve Fulcher lost his career, small price to pay I should imagine, can't just go around torturing poor defenceless citizens and denying them presumption of innocence.


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If you have proof the ciprianos are killers you should share it... But you dont

[Miss Taken Identity]

If you have proof the ciprianos are killers you should share it... But you dont

I never claimed they were killers, that was due process within a legal setting- nowt to do wi me sir.

However, if you have proof of their innocence then I am happy to read all about it.

[Mr Gray]

I never claimed they were killers, that was due process within a legal setting- nowt to do wi me sir.

However, if you have proof of their innocence then I am happy to read all about it.

Theres no proof either way...

[Miss Taken Identity]

Theres no proof either way...

I have no doubt in my mind she was a bad mother and little Joanna suffered horrible abuse.

[Mr Gray]

I have no doubt in my mind she was a bad mother and little Joanna suffered horrible abuse.

Im not sure even that is true......

[Vertigo Swirl]

You're right. You have to be happy in life.
I find it intriguing the delineation in this associated case - 'supporters' call 'torture' and 'miscarriage of justice' and 'sceptics' call 'fair kop' and 'means to an end' (to a degree). Funny that, given the bearing on the reputation of GA.

I like to try to put myself in the other non-gender specific, carbon based unit's shoes (or moccasins)  - this was a heinous crime (allegedly), with two people known to the local police as ne'er do wells at best, they have the uncle in one room singing like Barry Manilow on a Cruise Ship - confessing to 'just killing her', and in the next room we have the specimen of a 'mother' telling whichever tale her lawyer thinks might get her the least time.
I'm gonna be straight, I don't think much coercion was required at any point. I think there's every chance the coppers gave both of them a hiding, and I'd have done exactly the same - does that make me a bad person? Yes. Tough shit.

It makes you a supporter of police brutality, and other shonky methods of trying to get a conviction due to a complete lack of any forensic evidence, which certainly is a hard position to defend IMO. 

[Holly Goodhead]

I'm calling time on all this now.  Any further off-topic posts will be removed on sight. 

[The General]

Yes. There is a connection.

[G-Unit]

Yes. There is a connection.

Both were female, both have never been found, Amaral was the coordinator in both cases, officers from the DCCB were involved in both investigations.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Both were female, both have never been found, Amaral was the coordinator in both cases, officers from the DCCB were involved in both investigations.

Both disappeared within a few miles of each other, in a low population density area, in suspcious circs, within three years of each other, and disappeared completely without trace.  What are the chances, eh?

[Miss Taken Identity]

Both children lacked parental concern for their welfare, to an astonishing degree!

[Eleanor]

Both children lacked parental concern for their welfare, to an astonishing degree!

Rubbish.

[Holly Goodhead]

I've just removed a number of posts. 

The sheer level of childishness here is quite unbelievable.  Sadly it seems some contributors have nothing more to offer other than to engage in silly spats with a few emoticons thrown in for effect.  I've also noticed that 1 or 2  seem to spend a lot of time hovering, often not contributing much by way of on-topic posts, and then when a spat starts up they're straight in adding fuel to the fire.  It's not going unnoticed.  Keep it up and expect a temporary ban with the potential for a permanent.