A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?

[Brietta]

2 patio doors and 2 keys for them. Living room patio door and bedroom patio door. Tell me where the 3rd patio door is?

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- Outside of one patio door: Eight inadequate prints were recovered.- Outside of [the other] patio door: One inadequate print was recovered.
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/FINGERPRINTS.htm



I have no idea of what you are trying to say.  I see nothing about keys in the files.

[pathfinder73]

A door is to enter the apartment. There were 2 patio doors. One to enter the living room and the other door to enter the bedroom.

Outside of [the other] patio door: One inadequate print was recovered.

[Brietta]

A door is to enter the apartment. There were 2 patio doors. One to enter the living room and the other door to enter the bedroom.

Outside of [the other] patio door: One inadequate print was recovered.

Oh ... I see ... you think the abductor used the bedroom window. 
I believe Sadie mentioned that might have happened during discussion of her theory http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=1327.msg37641#msg37641 the difference between your theory and hers is that she libels no-one when discussing it.

[pathfinder73]

Smithman the abductor used the bedroom patio door to remove Madeleine in my theory. It was hidden by bushes and Eddie was interested in that area.

"However she left that apartment, she's been abducted." Mark Rowley

[Anthro]

Smithman the abductor used the bedroom patio door to remove Madeleine in my theory. It was hidden by bushes and Eddie was interested in that area.

"However she left that apartment, she's been abducted." Mark Rowley

To me, this is plausible. What do you make of Amaral’s latest statement that the person of interest is someone, looking similar to Madeleine’s father but who in fact is not Gerry McCann?

[John]

To me, this is plausible. What do you make of Amaral’s latest statement that the person of interest is someone, looking similar to Madeleine’s father but who in fact is not Gerry McCann?

Smithman is most certainly very much a person of interest who looks like Gerry McCann, there's no getting away from this.

Madeleine was most probably abducted imo but not from the bedroom.

[sadie]

Easy to obscure an exit from there then.

E.T.A.
Please note that I made a bit of a 'pigs ear of this post orininally.  Hopefully much clearer now.


More likely thru the parents bedroom patio door, which was largely obscured by a bush, rather than thru the sitting room patio door ... cos the later line of vision was not significantly obscured,  so visible to eaters at the Tapas restaurant.   But someone still had to climb/ descend steps that altho partly in darkness, and went into the glow of the street lamp immediately opposite, at the bottom and at the top.


The Front door is way most likely method of entry, due to its really dark entrance/ porchway.

Also the scent trails picked up by the dogs.

Also Jane Tanners  sighting.



Of course it needed some way for getting the key, but that has already been done to death on here several times before.







I sometimes wonder if a person protecting an OC / MW staff member is influencing other sceptics on here to push the patio door angle ?   Cos I cannot understand why the Front door is pointedly being ignored by all sceptics on here, when it is so obviously the most likely point of entry/ departure. 


It also could be someone, a sceptic, connected to an abduction, who is inflencing the other sceptics.   This person just wants to muddy the waters and make it more difficult for the investigating police .... Maybe?

[sadie]

Despite repeated requests you have never explained your source for the bolded information. You also seem determined to ignore the evidence given by Rachael Oldfield, who was present on 3rd May and said she could only see the top of the windows.

I HAVE Given a cite. 
You just have a bad memory it seems.


I ain't searching again; it's been done before

[sadie]

Is Rachel short?

Yep.


From photos, I thnk she could be described as petite.

It is difficult to be sure from this particular photograph, but it appears that her legs are longer than average.





Sorry this is such a small image and that I haven't sorted out the photo which really shows how petite she and Fiona are

[sadie]

I have always had a problem with the suggestion that any stranger would want to take the risk of going into 5a given the number of people both locals and tourists who were wandering around that night, not to mention those staying directly above the apartment.

It was very very quiet in the evening, when we were there (June/July time).  Almost no-one around.

[sadie]

And when Rachel said that she could only see the top of the window, was she referring to 5A or their own flat?

She would certainly have checked the visability to her own flat.


Anyone know ?

[Myster]

Yep.


From photos, I thnk she could be described as petite.

It is difficult to be sure from this particular photograph, but it appears that her legs are longer than average.

Sorry this is such a small image and that I haven't sorted out the photo which really shows how petite she and Fiona are

Petite, yes... but how on earth can you tell her legs are longer than average under all that clothing?!

[G-Unit]

I HAVE Given a cite. 
You just have a bad memory it seems.


I ain't searching again; it's been done before

Well I can provide a cite by someone who was there at the time. If you wish to contradict her you need evidence, not hearsay imo;

1578 'And from where you were sat, what was your view like of the apartments''
 Reply 'Erm well yeah I could see, I mean I could see the patio doors of ours and Gerry and Kates'.

1578 'How much of the patio doors''
 Reply 'Erm well kind of the top half really'.

1578 'Okay'.
 Reply "Yeah you know, I didn't get a full you know, you couldn't get a full view sort of right in, cos there were bushes, there were bushes and stuff there, erm'.
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/RACHAEL-OLDFIELD-ROGATORY.htm

[barrier]

More likely than thru the patio door cos that was not obscured by a bush, but someone still had to climb/ descend steps that altho partly in darkness, went into the glow of the street lamp immediately opposite at the bottom and at the top.


The Front door is way most likely method of entry, due to its really dark entrance/ porchway.

Also the scent trails picked up by the dogs.

Also Jane Tanners  sighting.



Of course it needed some way for getting the key, but that has already been done to death on here several times before.







I sometimes wonder if a person protecting an OC / MW staff member is influencing other sceptics on here to push the patio door angle ?   Cos I cannot understand why the Front door is pointedly being ignored by all sceptics on here, when it is so obviously the most likely point of entry/ departure. 


It also could be someone, a sceptic, connected to an abduction, who is inflencing the other sceptics.   This person just wants to muddy the waters and make it more difficult for the investigating police .... Maybe?

Only if you want it to be,even SY nor the PJ have come up with the exit point,all are open to opinion,nothing more nothing less.

[barrier]

Smithman is most certainly very much a person of interest who looks like Gerry McCann, there's no getting away from this.

Madeleine was most probably abducted imo but not from the bedroom.

Redwood:A description very close to that of Madeleine McCann" being carried by smithman.