A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?

[The General]

Am I to understand that Mary's Mother was a virgin as well?

You'll need to read it for yourself. It's crackers, but the virgin birth is a popular misconception - pun intended.

According to tradition of the Catholic church, the Virgin Mary's parents, St. Anne and St. Joachim, were childless, when an angel came to them and told them they would give birth to a daughter. During the conception of Mary, she was preserved from the stain of original sin.

It's not a mistranslation, it's stupid people misinterpreting the nonsense their ancestors made up.

[G-Unit]

calpol as a sedative is not in the real world
a 4 year old dying after a fall from a sof is not in the rael world

Parents covering up a childs death thenraising millions to continue the investigation for 12 years is not in the real world...imo

you seem very selective as what you consider as part of the real world...perhaps you are not as open minded as you think

The things you speak of are not facts, they are hypotheses. Dismissing them doesn't rule out the possibility that a child died, that her parents chose not to disclose the death and that they chose to pretend there had been an abduction.

It's possible that after that they were on a merry-go-round and they couldn't get off. The merry-go-round was started and maintained by spin doctors and journalists. It became the McCann circus, the Kate and Gerry show, just as Jon Corner predicted. It was never about finding the supposedly abducted child in my opinion.

The idea that one child has a precious DNA and that someone knew this and stole her in order to breed from her is the stuff of fantasy imo. It would make a good book or film, but real life? Please!

[Mr Gray]

You'll need to read it for yourself. It's crackers, but the virgin birth is a popular misconception - pun intended.

According to tradition of the Catholic church, the Virgin Mary's parents, St. Anne and St. Joachim, were childless, when an angel came to them and told them they would give birth to a daughter. During the conception of Mary, she was preserved from the stain of original sin.

It's not a mistranslation, it's stupid people misinterpreting the nonsense their ancestors made up.

Perhaps you don't understand the mistranslation... I think it was the Greek for young women that was translated

[The General]

The things you speak of are not facts, they are hypotheses. Dismissing them doesn't rule out the possibility that a child died, that her parents chose not to disclose the death and that they chose to pretend there had been an abduction.

It's possible that after that they were on a merry-go-round and they couldn't get off. The merry-go-round was started and maintained by spin doctors and journalists. It became the McCann circus, the Kate and Gerry show, just as Jon Corner predicted. It was never about finding the supposedly abducted child in my opinion.

The idea that one child has a precious DNA and that someone knew this and stole her in order to breed from her is the stuff of fantasy imo. It would make a good book or film, but real life? Please!

This is one way why I see supporters as 'enablers' and not supporters at all. They wilfully enable innumerable tinfoil hat theorists by defending their position, despite knowing how ridiculous they are and despite Kate and Gerry's wishes.

[Mr Gray]

The things you speak of are not facts, they are hypotheses. Dismissing them doesn't rule out the possibility that a child died, that her parents chose not to disclose the death and that they chose to pretend there had been an abduction.

It's possible that after that they were on a merry-go-round and they couldn't get off. The merry-go-round was started and maintained by spin doctors and journalists. It became the McCann circus, the Kate and Gerry show, just as Jon Corner predicted. It was never about finding the supposedly abducted child in my opinion.

The idea that one child has a precious DNA and that someone knew this and stole her in order to breed from her is the stuff of fantasy imo. It would make a good book or film, but real life? Please!

Calpol is not a sedative fact
There is no report anywhere in the world of a 4 yr old fallung off a sofa and dying.. Fact.

Sadie believes Maddie us, from a certain bloodline.. Fact

So it's possible that others, do.. Fact

[Eleanor]

I suppose she would have been at some point.

You know very well what I meant.

Incidentally, the term Virgin as translated didn't mean the same thing.

[The General]

Perhaps you don't understand the mistranslation... I think it was the Greek for young women that was translated

I understand perfectly. I've actually read all that crap and I've shown you the popular misconception.
I'm not discussing theology here any further. Feel free to pick a theology forum of your choosing and we can go at it over there.

[Eleanor]

You'll need to read it for yourself. It's crackers, but the virgin birth is a popular misconception - pun intended.

According to tradition of the Catholic church, the Virgin Mary's parents, St. Anne and St. Joachim, were childless, when an angel came to them and told them they would give birth to a daughter. During the conception of Mary, she was preserved from the stain of original sin.

It's not a mistranslation, it's stupid people misinterpreting the nonsense their ancestors made up.

Agreed on that one.  Although they must have made her Saint Anne for some reason.  Either that or they made it up as they went along.

[Eleanor]

Perhaps you don't understand the mistranslation... I think it was the Greek for young women that was translated

That is what I understand happened.

[The General]

Agreed on that one.  Although they must have made her Saint Anne for some reason.  Either that or they made it up as they went along.

You're right, they literally made it up as they went on. The gospels, for example, were not written contemporaneously and it shows. (I'm not discussing theology still).
But the manner in which Mary found out she was up the stick differs depending on which gospel you pick: Luke - angel Gabriel visits one night, Matthew - Joseph has a dream. Yeh, whatever.

[Eleanor]

Sorry.  I think that this is a bit disrespectful to Catholics who hold these beliefs.  So if we could be a trifle careful of our language.

Thank You.

[Mr Gray]

I understand perfectly. I've actually read all that crap and I've shown you the popular misconception.
I'm not discussing theology here any further. Feel free to pick a theology forum of your choosing and we can go at it over there.

I didn't raise it... I'm not discussing theology but mistranslations which are relevant to the case.... Thou shalt not kill... Is, another.. It should be thou shalt not murder... Killings ok

[G-Unit]

Sorry.  I think that this is a bit disrespectful to Catholics who hold these beliefs.  So if we could be a trifle careful of our language.

Thank You.

Just Catholics? Other Christians are available.

[Mr Gray]

Just Catholics? Other Christians are available.

Are you a Christian or are you just getting offended on behalf of others

[Mr Gray]

The things you speak of are not facts, they are hypotheses. Dismissing them doesn't rule out the possibility that a child died, that her parents chose not to disclose the death and that they chose to pretend there had been an abduction.

It's possible that after that they were on a merry-go-round and they couldn't get off. The merry-go-round was started and maintained by spin doctors and journalists. It became the McCann circus, the Kate and Gerry show, just as Jon Corner predicted. It was never about finding the supposedly abducted child in my opinion.

The idea that one child has a precious DNA and that someone knew this and stole her in order to breed from her is the stuff of fantasy imo. It would make a good book or film, but real life? Please!

And you dismissing Sadies theory does not rule it out... That is another fact...