Author Topic: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?  (Read 270488 times)

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Offline Robittybob1

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1335 on: January 09, 2020, 10:24:31 AM »
There are two reasons why not;

1. They hadn't reached a point where they needed to do that.
2. They were working under the direction of Harrison and Grime. They wouldn't agree to carry out screening of clothing unless it was to gather evidence.
That is your opinion, but I don't agree with it.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1336 on: January 09, 2020, 10:27:48 AM »
If Grime was asked to do something which was a waste of time he would have said no.
A confession isn't going to be a waste of time.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1337 on: January 09, 2020, 10:28:32 AM »
I very much doubt that.
Especially if he gets paid for it.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1338 on: January 09, 2020, 10:30:14 AM »
Are you suggesting that he was coerced in some way, or he didn't apply his usual rigour, and to what end?
To fit the McCann's up as part of a wider consipracy?
For personal kudos and financial gain, despite him already being the go to man?
What is your 'real world view'?

my real world view is that shared by the experts...recently the Gilroy podcast confirmed it. the alerts are valueless as evidence. The claim they are circumstantail evidence has no support from any expert

It was  a portuguese case...were the portuguese paying for the dogs.....imo....Grime would have searched where he was asked to search. If someone has evidence that is untrue lets hear it.

Offline The General

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1339 on: January 09, 2020, 10:31:31 AM »
Especially if he gets paid for it.
He's going to professionally compromise himself for minimal financial gain?
What are you saying? He'll deliberately 'cue' the dogs to impress everyone? On video?
You need to ring the fella too.
Subject Matter Expert - Hobos.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1340 on: January 09, 2020, 10:33:25 AM »
this is in grimes staement..

The EVRD was then tasked to search the area. When passing a
vehicle I now know to be hired and in the possession of the McCann family,
the dog's behaviour changed substantially.



two points...the dog initially showed no interest in the car and walked past it........this fact is totally at odds to grimes claim.

Grime implies at the time he didnt know it was the mccanns car...yet it was covered in posters....this fact is totally at odds to grimes claim




Offline Eleanor

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1341 on: January 09, 2020, 10:33:45 AM »
He's going to professionally compromise himself for minimal financial gain?
What are you saying? He'll deliberately 'cue' the dogs to impress everyone? On video?
You need to ring the fella too.

Martin Grime is an expert grandstander.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1342 on: January 09, 2020, 10:34:50 AM »
He's going to professionally compromise himself for minimal financial gain?
What are you saying? He'll deliberately 'cue' the dogs to impress everyone? On video?
You need to ring the fella too.

Grime must have thought the video was quite impressive as he used it as promotional material to gain a lucrative contract in Jersey

Offline Robittybob1

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1343 on: January 09, 2020, 10:36:00 AM »
my real world view is that shared by the experts...recently the Gilroy podcast confirmed it. the alerts are valueless as evidence. The claim they are circumstantail evidence has no support from any expert

It was  a portuguese case...were the portuguese paying for the dogs.....imo....Grime would have searched where he was asked to search. If someone has evidence that is untrue lets hear it.
"The claim they are circumstantial evidence has no support from any expert"  Who has agreed with that for there are cases that have shown you are wrong. 
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Offline Eleanor

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1344 on: January 09, 2020, 10:36:08 AM »
Grime must have thought the video was quite impressive as he used it as promotional material to gain a lucrative contract in Jersey

And we all know what happened there.

Offline The General

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1345 on: January 09, 2020, 10:37:11 AM »
my real world view is that shared by the experts...recently the Gilroy podcast confirmed it. the alerts are valueless as evidence. The claim they are circumstantail evidence has no support from any expert

It was  a portuguese case...were the portuguese paying for the dogs.....imo....Grime would have searched where he was asked to search. If someone has evidence that is untrue lets hear it.
He will have searched where it happened like every potential crime. He's not going to search the next resort along on his demand, he's going to search where he's directed. By Harrison.
What are you saying, bearing in mind this is before Snr Gonzo (top cop) published his findings? That somehow he also had the abilities of soothsayer, just like you, and got the dogs to search in the place where they could best fit the McCann's up?

Subject Matter Expert - Hobos.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1346 on: January 09, 2020, 10:37:32 AM »
"The claim they are circumstantial evidence has no support from any expert"  Who has agreed with that for there are cases that have shown you are wrong.

Grime has made it clear the alerts have no evidential value

Offline Mr Gray

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1347 on: January 09, 2020, 10:39:00 AM »
He will have searched where it happened like every potential crime. He's not going to search the next resort along on his demand, he's going to search where he's directed. By Harrison.
What are you saying, bearing in mind this is before Snr Gonzo (top cop) published his findings? That somehow he also had the abilities of soothsayer, just like you, and got the dogs to search in the place where they could best fit the McCann's up?

where is the evidence that harrison suggested the car should be screened. Harrison never mentioned the car in his stateemnt of where the dogs should search
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Offline Eleanor

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1348 on: January 09, 2020, 10:39:34 AM »
"The claim they are circumstantial evidence has no support from any expert"  Who has agreed with that for there are cases that have shown you are wrong.

And others that have shown that Davel is right.  So nothing to be relied upon.

Offline The General

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1349 on: January 09, 2020, 10:41:30 AM »
where is the evidence that harrison suggested the car should be screened. Harrison never mentioned the car in his staeemnt of where the dogs should search
So Harrison oversaw the operation, but didn't bother his arse to oversee the lot full of cars being transported and positioned, the most complex and time-consuming part of the process. Pack it in.
Look at the extent of the search, it was extensive.
Subject Matter Expert - Hobos.