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Offline The General

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1395 on: January 10, 2020, 10:12:31 AM »
Quote from: Davel on January 09, 2020, 08:09:10 PM
so ten years...and supposedly the best in the business. What actual achievements re his contribution to solving cases and finding evidence...there seems to be very...very little...next to nothing
You inferred he acted fraudulently by cuing the dog to alert to the car he saw posters on.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1396 on: January 10, 2020, 10:20:13 AM »
Quote from: The General on January 10, 2020, 10:12:31 AM
You inferred he acted fraudulently by cuing the dog to alert to the car he saw posters on.
Gosh.. I'm outed... Should I go under radar...
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Offline The General

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1397 on: January 10, 2020, 10:26:28 AM »
Quote from: Davel on January 10, 2020, 10:20:13 AM
Gosh.. I'm outed... Should I go under radar...
No, please continue. In fact you can double down for me. Sooner or later you'll get pinged.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1398 on: January 10, 2020, 10:27:17 AM »
Quote from: The General on January 10, 2020, 07:50:41 AM
So what if they alert in a place where the body used to be, and are then proved correct?
Probably wouldn't be a circumstantial evidence case then.
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Offline The General

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1399 on: January 10, 2020, 10:28:34 AM »
Quote from: Robittybob1 on January 10, 2020, 10:27:17 AM
Probably wouldn't be a circumstantial evidence case then.
Correct. It's a verifiable fact that the dog was right.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1400 on: January 10, 2020, 10:31:33 AM »
Quote from: The General on January 10, 2020, 10:28:34 AM
Correct. It's a verifiable fact that the dog was right.
Yeah it would be a pat on the back for the trainer, but the actual proof would have priority in court. 
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Offline The General

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1401 on: January 10, 2020, 10:41:32 AM »
Quote from: Robittybob1 on January 10, 2020, 10:31:33 AM
Yeah it would be a pat on the back for the trainer, but the actual proof would have priority in court.
It's not a pat on the back for the trainer, I doubt he gives one contrary to a number on here who think Marty Grime in particular is a grand stander, it's (further) proof of concept. We use these previous cases for a reason; they provide a precedent we can refer to to prove rigour.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1402 on: January 10, 2020, 10:47:46 AM »
Quote from: The General on January 10, 2020, 10:41:32 AM
It's not a pat on the back for the trainer, I doubt he gives one contrary to a number on here who think Marty Grime in particular is a grand stander, it's (further) proof of concept. We use these previous cases for a reason; they provide a precedent we can refer to to prove rigour.

What previous cases.. Prior to 2007 Eddie had only ever found one body
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Offline The General

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1403 on: January 10, 2020, 11:23:22 AM »
Quote from: Davel on January 10, 2020, 10:47:46 AM
What previous cases.. Prior to 2007 Eddie had only ever found one body
Everywhere. Or are North American dogs now not able to be used as precedent?
How about EVRD dogs deployed in disaster zones? Waste of time?
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Offline jassi

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1404 on: January 10, 2020, 11:39:53 AM »
Quote from: The General on January 10, 2020, 11:23:22 AM
Everywhere. Or are North American dogs now not able to be used as precedent?
How about EVRD dogs deployed in disaster zones? Waste of time?


Only when it's a McCann disaster zone  8(0(*
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Offline Eleanor

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1405 on: January 10, 2020, 01:48:02 PM »
Quote from: The General on January 10, 2020, 11:23:22 AM
Everywhere. Or are North American dogs now not able to be used as precedent?
How about EVRD dogs deployed in disaster zones? Waste of time?

There was only ever one EVRD.
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Offline Lace

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1406 on: January 10, 2020, 02:46:43 PM »
Quote from: The General on January 10, 2020, 11:23:22 AM
Everywhere. Or are North American dogs now not able to be used as precedent?
How about EVRD dogs deployed in disaster zones? Waste of time?

If there is a body there then there is no problem.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1407 on: January 10, 2020, 05:08:02 PM »
Quote from: The General on January 10, 2020, 11:23:22 AM
Everywhere. Or are North American dogs now not able to be used as precedent?
How about EVRD dogs deployed in disaster zones? Waste of time?
Do you know for a fact that all these successful cadaver dogs only alerted when they came across a body? 
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Offline The General

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1408 on: January 10, 2020, 07:51:44 PM »
Quote from: Vertigo Swirl on January 10, 2020, 05:08:02 PM
Do you know for a fact that all these successful cadaver dogs only alerted when they came across a body?
Are you aware of anything that's 100% reliable?
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1409 on: January 10, 2020, 08:08:46 PM »
Quote from: The General on January 10, 2020, 07:51:44 PM
Are you aware of anything that's 100% reliable?

Yes.. Eddie... The superdog... Never wrong in 200 cases.. 100% record... Ask any sceptic for a cite
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