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Offline Mr Gray

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1590 on: February 10, 2020, 01:10:45 PM »
A cast iron alibi is helpful, but there are none in this case.
The last person to see Ben Needham was his grandmother... I think we can say she was not involved but it can't be proved beyond all doubt

Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1591 on: February 10, 2020, 01:48:31 PM »
How much do you actually know about the investigation of Madeleine's case???

The Amaral/Almeida investigation was superseded by the Rebelo investigation after Amaral was sacked and Almeida took leave of absence  https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2007/oct/03/ukcrime.uknews4

More details here ~ Top officer takes over in McCann case   https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2007/oct/09/ukcrime.madeleinemccann

Rebelo's first task was to make some sense of the disorder the Amaral investigation had left behind them ...
Snip
Paulo Rebelo, the new police chief leading the Madeleine McCann investigation, is furious at how it was left in disarray by his predecessor.

According to reports, officers have spent the past fortnight processing information left lying around on scraps of paper and following leads ignored by police working under Chief Inspector Goncalo Amaral.

Following Amaral's removal after he criticised British police, Rebelo, one of Portugal's national deputy police chiefs, is reviewing the whole forensic investigation because of earlier procedural errors.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/madeleine-new-police-chiefs-fury-over-the-mess-he-inherited-from-his-predecessor-6669085.html

And that is only the tip of the iceberg.

But the main points are that the Amaral investigation 'screwed up' and what could be salvaged from the mess was put into some sort of order by Rebelo and the specialist team he brought with him.

The files with which we are familiar today are the result of that ... "His appointment is an attempt to regain control of the investigation into Madeleine's disappearance ... " and in conjunction with the proper conduct of the case ... "Her parents, Gerry and Kate McCann, were named as official suspects on September 7, but a magistrate ruled the police had yet to gather sufficient evidence to warrant further questioning of the couple over the disappearance of their daughter."  https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2007/oct/09/ukcrime.madeleinemccann

So in effect you are following entirely the wrong illusion if you think for a minute that Amaral contributed anything but disarray to Madeleine's investigation or that any self respecting investigating body would be able to refer to what he left behind ... certainly the Judicial Police who took over from him couldn't.

Scotland Yard used Rebelo's work ... without which it would have been impossible for Scotland Yard or anyone else to penetrate the mess of an investigation Amaral left behind.

Snip
Meanwhile, a police source quoted in a Portuguese newspaper said: "There was important material lying all over the place that hadn't been considered by investigators.

"A lot of key information was discarded. The whole process is being reviewed. Putting all the papers in order has been a massive task."

Officers have been working round-the-clock to log on to a computer all information relating to the disappearance of four-year-old Madeleine from the holiday complex in May.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/madeleine-new-police-chiefs-fury-over-the-mess-he-inherited-from-his-predecessor-6669085.html

How many people for how long did it take OG to load up HOLMES2, despite the fact that LP were using it and different HOLMES2 systems can talk to each other?  A fortnight?  Amazing!

Dear reader, Brietta knows that Amaral was not sacked, but it is such a juicy. emotive, connotative use of language.

My next task is to find out how to make spiced nectarine cobblers.  It is alleged that they were an Elvis favourite, but as he has been dead since 1977, I'm going to have to treat this assertion as opinion, much like Brietta's.
What's up, old man?

Offline sadie

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1592 on: February 10, 2020, 01:54:22 PM »
How many people for how long did it take OG to load up HOLMES2, despite the fact that LP were using it and different HOLMES2 systems can talk to each other?  A fortnight?  Amazing!

Dear reader, Brietta knows that Amaral was not sacked, but it is such a juicy. emotive, connotative use of language.

My next task is to find out how to make spiced nectarine cobblers. It is alleged that they were an Elvis favourite, but as he has been dead since 1977, I'm going to have to treat this assertion as opinion, much like Brietta's.

ORLY ?


Offline Mr Gray

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1593 on: February 10, 2020, 02:07:55 PM »
How many people for how long did it take OG to load up HOLMES2, despite the fact that LP were using it and different HOLMES2 systems can talk to each other?  A fortnight?  Amazing!

Dear reader, Brietta knows that Amaral was not sacked, but it is such a juicy. emotive, connotative use of language.

My next task is to find out how to make spiced nectarine cobblers.  It is alleged that they were an Elvis favourite, but as he has been dead since 1977, I'm going to have to treat this assertion as opinion, much like Brietta's.

Amaral was sacked from the Madeleine investigation... That's, a matter if fact... As for the, rest of the cobblers.... Not really worth commenting on

Offline Brietta

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1594 on: February 10, 2020, 02:45:09 PM »
How many people for how long did it take OG to load up HOLMES2, despite the fact that LP were using it and different HOLMES2 systems can talk to each other?  A fortnight?  Amazing!

Dear reader, Brietta knows that Amaral was not sacked, but it is such a juicy. emotive, connotative use of language.

My next task is to find out how to make spiced nectarine cobblers.  It is alleged that they were an Elvis favourite, but as he has been dead since 1977, I'm going to have to treat this assertion as opinion, much like Brietta's.

It is not my opinion that Amaral was sacked it is a fact with the reasons for his sacking being well known.
If you are in denial that is your concern but please do not bring disinformation to the forum.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline kizzy

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1595 on: February 10, 2020, 03:34:49 PM »
How much do you actually know about the investigation of Madeleine's case???

The Amaral/Almeida investigation was superseded by the Rebelo investigation after Amaral was sacked and Almeida took leave of absence  https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2007/oct/03/ukcrime.uknews4

More details here ~ Top officer takes over in McCann case   https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2007/oct/09/ukcrime.madeleinemccann

Rebelo's first task was to make some sense of the disorder the Amaral investigation had left behind them ...
Snip
Paulo Rebelo, the new police chief leading the Madeleine McCann investigation, is furious at how it was left in disarray by his predecessor.

According to reports, officers have spent the past fortnight processing information left lying around on scraps of paper and following leads ignored by police working under Chief Inspector Goncalo Amaral.

Following Amaral's removal after he criticised British police, Rebelo, one of Portugal's national deputy police chiefs, is reviewing the whole forensic investigation because of earlier procedural errors.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/madeleine-new-police-chiefs-fury-over-the-mess-he-inherited-from-his-predecessor-6669085.html

And that is only the tip of the iceberg.

But the main points are that the Amaral investigation 'screwed up' and what could be salvaged from the mess was put into some sort of order by Rebelo and the specialist team he brought with him.

The files with which we are familiar today are the result of that ... "His appointment is an attempt to regain control of the investigation into Madeleine's disappearance ... " and in conjunction with the proper conduct of the case ... "Her parents, Gerry and Kate McCann, were named as official suspects on September 7, but a magistrate ruled the police had yet to gather sufficient evidence to warrant further questioning of the couple over the disappearance of their daughter."  https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2007/oct/09/ukcrime.madeleinemccann

So in effect you are following entirely the wrong illusion if you think for a minute that Amaral contributed anything but disarray to Madeleine's investigation or that any self respecting investigating body would be able to refer to what he left behind ... certainly the Judicial Police who took over from him couldn't.

Scotland Yard used Rebelo's work ... without which it would have been impossible for Scotland Yard or anyone else to penetrate the mess of an investigation Amaral left behind.

Snip
Meanwhile, a police source quoted in a Portuguese newspaper said: "There was important material lying all over the place that hadn't been considered by investigators.

"A lot of key information was discarded. The whole process is being reviewed. Putting all the papers in order has been a massive task."

Officers have been working round-the-clock to log on to a computer all information relating to the disappearance of four-year-old Madeleine from the holiday complex in May.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/madeleine-new-police-chiefs-fury-over-the-mess-he-inherited-from-his-predecessor-6669085.html



How much do you actually know about the investigation of Madeleine's case???






Oh FGS what difference does that make and what gives you the right to act superior B

Just because you follow it for years with your snips and posts - doesn't mean that you know what happened.


Anyone could start an interest today - and know as much as you that is Maddie went missing May 2007.

Still to this day - no one really knows what happened to her apart from some think mcns involved some don't.

Because whatever you think you know it is opinion and speculation nothing more IMO.

no proof of abduction - nor is it set in stone she was yet that is what we are expected to believe

No one apart from who was there knows what really happened to Maddie McCann and you don't either

Offline Mr Gray

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1596 on: February 10, 2020, 04:12:09 PM »


How much do you actually know about the investigation of Madeleine's case???






Oh FGS what difference does that make and what gives you the right to act superior B

Just because you follow it for years with your snips and posts - doesn't mean that you know what happened.


Anyone could start an interest today - and know as much as you that is Maddie went missing May 2007.

Still to this day - no one really knows what happened to her apart from some think mcns involved some don't.

Because whatever you think you know it is opinion and speculation nothing more IMO.

no proof of abduction - nor is it set in stone she was yet that is what we are expected to believe

No one apart from who was there knows what really happened to Maddie McCann and you don't either
Yet amaral said the available evidence proves Maddie died in the apartment... It doesn't...why doesn't amaral realise that..
No wonder he got the sack
« Last Edit: February 10, 2020, 04:14:26 PM by Davel »

Offline The General

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1597 on: February 10, 2020, 05:27:58 PM »
Yet amaral said the available evidence proves Maddie died in the apartment... It doesn't...why doesn't amaral realise that..
No wonder he got the sack

Sack, removed, expunged, redeployed, fielding at cow corner, call it what you will.
Just too damned thorough and courageous for the palette of some.
Subject Matter Expert - Hobos.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1598 on: February 10, 2020, 05:38:13 PM »
Sack, removed, expunged, redeployed, fielding at cow corner, call it what you will.
Just too damned thorough and courageous for the palette of some.
I think you've mixed up your palettes... Lol... Have another go.. It's palate

Offline The General

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1599 on: February 10, 2020, 05:41:35 PM »
I think you've mixed up your palettes... Lol... Have another go.. It's palate
My bad. Autocorrect.
But being corrected by the forum random word generator is quite the insult.
Subject Matter Expert - Hobos.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1600 on: February 10, 2020, 05:46:46 PM »
Sack, removed, expunged, redeployed, fielding at cow corner, call it what you will.
Just too damned thorough and courageous for the palette of some.
Boy, have you got a bad case of man crush. 
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Mr Gray

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1601 on: February 10, 2020, 05:48:56 PM »
Boy, have you got a bad case of man crush.

I think it can  only possibly be a wind up... Surely.... Or are some really too blind to see amarals severe limitations
« Last Edit: February 10, 2020, 05:58:06 PM by Davel »

Offline The General

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1602 on: February 10, 2020, 05:50:40 PM »
Boy, have you got a bad case of man crush.
Thanks.
Subject Matter Expert - Hobos.

Offline The General

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1603 on: February 10, 2020, 05:53:04 PM »
I think it can get only possibly be a wind up... Surely.... Or are some really too blind to see amarals severe limitations
One definition of  'severe limitations' may be obtaining the ability to construct a simple sentence as a seemingly coherent adult, living independently.
Subject Matter Expert - Hobos.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1604 on: February 10, 2020, 05:58:58 PM »
One definition of  'severe limitations' may be obtaining the ability to construct a simple sentence as a seemingly coherent adult, living independently.

Is my post not to your pallet