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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1665 on: March 24, 2020, 09:23:37 PM »
Hallo Miss Taken, although the Bulgarian connection/Todorov/woman in purple seen by two people on the street facing 5A hours before Madeleine disappeared have been dismissed in 2017, I am wondering if there is perhaps more to it. Luisa C was a waitress at the Millennium/Mirage restaurant at the time. If I recall correctly, the group had dinner there on their first night in PdL. Her husband, Stefan T worked in the kitchen at the Tapas adjacent to 5A where the group had dinner for the remainder of their vacation. He was also responsible for the outside area, i.e. the pool, chairs at the pool etc. They all live in Almadena, which is adjacent to PdL. Luisa’s son is Francisco C, a drifter, doing drugs and travelling the world cf. his profile on Facebook, which is only accessible through his mother’s profile. I went back to Gail Cooper’s description of the charity collector for the orphanage in Espiche, and as sketched by Melissa Little. To me, there is a resemblance. I’ll share some pictures and will abide if Admin finds them inappropriate and libelous. Ps. José de Silva, the Ocean Club driver, identified by Heri through the mobile records, was doing the run to and from to Faro Airport, is a facebook friend of F. Camara.



Hi Anthro,

thank you for taking the time to explain that- it is very interesting and worthy of discussion.  I always though the woman in purple was Jane T  with her fleece.

I am not convinced of all the likeness apart from #4.
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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1666 on: March 24, 2020, 09:29:36 PM »
Anthro- I am left wondering what their involvement could be...

What do you believe happened to MBM- why was she taken, and was she taken from the street or the apartment as described by the parents?
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Offline G-Unit

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1667 on: March 24, 2020, 09:49:30 PM »
Anthro;

The Todorov's both worked at the Millenium restaurant.
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Offline Anthro

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1668 on: March 24, 2020, 09:54:40 PM »
Anthro- I am left wondering what their involvement could be...

What do you believe happened to MBM- why was she taken, and was she taken from the street or the apartment as described by the parents?
Miss Taken, I don’t know but there are things not adding up, for me: it has been said that Stefan Todorov is deceased, yet there is a profile for him since 2017 with two pictures and one friend commenting ‘finally!’. Luisa’s profile states that she is married since 2006 and that he is the love of her life. Then there is the Anna Stam sighting during the first part of May 2007 in Amsterdam, the girl saying she is ‘Maggie’, ‘Maddie’, they took me from my holiday, do you know where my Mom is ..

Offline Anthro

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1669 on: March 24, 2020, 09:56:01 PM »
Anthro;

The Todorov's both worked at the Millenium restaurant.
Hallo G-Unit, not according to Stefan’s statement in the PJ files?

Offline Anthro

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1670 on: March 24, 2020, 09:57:36 PM »
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Offline G-Unit

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1671 on: March 24, 2020, 11:20:22 PM »
Hallo G-Unit, not according to Stefan’s statement in the PJ files?

Where does he say he worked at the Tapas restaurant?
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1672 on: March 25, 2020, 03:33:31 AM »
Hallo Miss Taken, although the Bulgarian connection/Todorov/woman in purple seen by two people on the street facing 5A hours before Madeleine disappeared have been dismissed in 2017, I am wondering if there is perhaps more to it. Luisa C was a waitress at the Millennium/Mirage restaurant at the time. If I recall correctly, the group had dinner there on their first night in PdL. Her husband, Stefan T worked in the kitchen at the Tapas adjacent to 5A where the group had dinner for the remainder of their vacation. He was also responsible for the outside area, i.e. the pool, chairs at the pool etc. They all live in Almadena, which is adjacent to PdL. Luisa’s son is Francisco C, a drifter, doing drugs and travelling the world cf. his profile on Facebook, which is only accessible through his mother’s profile. I went back to Gail Cooper’s description of the charity collector for the orphanage in Espiche, and as sketched by Melissa Little. To me, there is a resemblance. I’ll share some pictures and will abide if Admin finds them inappropriate and libelous. Ps. José de Silva, the Ocean Club driver, identified by Heri through the mobile records, was doing the run to and from to Faro Airport, is a facebook friend of F. Camara.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1673 on: March 25, 2020, 03:51:32 AM »
Where does he say he worked at the Tapas restaurant?
It doesn't say directly, but they talk of the OC swimming pools and then the restaurant near that.  That logically would be the swimming pools at OC and Tapas restaurant, surely.

"Place of Work: Oficina Vasco da Gama Lagos & Ocean Club

Has worked at the OC since 31/03/2007 part-time, he works four hours a day as a waiter. He works every day from 20.00 - 24.00 and has Sundays off.

As a waiter he always begins work at the Club's swimming pool, tidying the chairs around the pool and collecting the rubbish bags. Then he goes to the restaurant kitchen where he begins to do the washing up and tasks connected with the preparation of meals.

He does not have contact with the restaurant's clients, from the moment he enters the kitchen he remains there until the restaurant is closed at 24.00. He only has contact with clients and sees them when he is doing his rounds of the pool.

The previous year he also worked at the OC restaurant for a period of six months, doing the same work."
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Offline Brietta

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1674 on: March 25, 2020, 08:39:58 AM »
It doesn't say directly, but they talk of the OC swimming pools and then the restaurant near that.  That logically would be the swimming pools at OC and Tapas restaurant, surely.

"Place of Work: Oficina Vasco da Gama Lagos & Ocean Club

Has worked at the OC since 31/03/2007 part-time, he works four hours a day as a waiter. He works every day from 20.00 - 24.00 and has Sundays off.

As a waiter he always begins work at the Club's swimming pool, tidying the chairs around the pool and collecting the rubbish bags. Then he goes to the restaurant kitchen where he begins to do the washing up and tasks connected with the preparation of meals.

He does not have contact with the restaurant's clients, from the moment he enters the kitchen he remains there until the restaurant is closed at 24.00. He only has contact with clients and sees them when he is doing his rounds of the pool.

The previous year he also worked at the OC restaurant for a period of six months, doing the same work."

His employment appears to me to have been as a bit of 'Jack of all trades' in nature and as far as I can see it would be rather difficult to pin down his location at any given time.

He has legitimate and as a member of staff invisible freedom of movement in the immediate area frequented by the McCann family.

He is not listed with the other Millenium staff ...

Witness Statement

Luisa Maria Camara Todorov

Date: 2007/05/08
Occupation: Waitress

Place of Work: OC Millenium Restaurant.
______________________________________

Witness Statement

Date: 2007/05/07

Stefan Kotsev Todorov
Occupation: Car painter/ Waiter

Place of Work: Oficina Vasco da Gama Lagos & Ocean Club

https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/TRANSLATIONS.htm
 

Only his wife, who apparently is not the widow of the tabloids, associates his employment with the Millenium restaurant ... in my opinion he doesn't in his only statement and neither do the files.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline G-Unit

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1675 on: March 25, 2020, 11:29:24 AM »
I can see no reason why his wife would lie about where her husband worked, and he's not included in the list of Tapas staff either.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1676 on: March 25, 2020, 12:10:02 PM »
I can see no reason why his wife would lie about where her husband worked, and he's not included in the list of Tapas staff either.

people lie to cover things up

Offline G-Unit

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1677 on: March 25, 2020, 03:50:32 PM »
people lie to cover things up

Only if they've got something to hide. This guy worked at the Millenium, not the Tapas.
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Offline Brietta

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1678 on: March 25, 2020, 05:43:57 PM »
Only if they've got something to hide. This guy worked at the Millenium, not the Tapas.

Apart from his wife's statement ... where is the cite confirming your supposition?
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Anthro

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1679 on: March 25, 2020, 08:57:27 PM »
Only if they've got something to hide. This guy worked at the Millenium, not the Tapas.
The woman is believed to be 58-year-old waitress Luisa Todorov.

Luisa’s husband, 50-year-old Stefan Todorov, had been working at the tapas restaurant where Kate and Gerry McCann had been dining with friends on the night of Maddie’s disappearance.

Five days after the suspected abduction, both Luisa and Stefan gave statements to the Portuguese police, as standard procedure – Luisa’s statement revealed how she’d been employed at the Millennium restaurant, where she worked day shifts. (Unilad.co.uk)