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Offline G-Unit

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1755 on: June 13, 2020, 08:48:35 AM »
Is there any chance at all that we can have a day without innuendo about any members of a family which has just lost a dearly loved matriarch and has to cope with the German police broadcasting that they think their missing daughter is dead without further explanation.
I cannot imagine what they are going through but now that the sceptics on this forum have learned the meaning of the presumption of innocence and adopted it there should be less crap to the contrary posted here.  Thank you

It would be helpful if the innuendo about others was to cease. Otherwise it looks like this 'presumption of innocence' applies only to certain people. In my opinion, of course, it applies only to those charged with an offence.
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Offline Brietta

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1756 on: June 13, 2020, 09:26:37 AM »
It would be helpful if the innuendo about others was to cease. Otherwise it looks like this 'presumption of innocence' applies only to certain people. In my opinion, of course, it applies only to those charged with an offence.

Is that an agreement with my post? ... I'm sorry, I can't tell.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1757 on: June 13, 2020, 09:51:22 AM »
It would be helpful if the innuendo about others was to cease. Otherwise it looks like this 'presumption of innocence' applies only to certain people. In my opinion, of course, it applies only to those charged with an offence.
It seems therefore that accusing people of committing horrendous crimes before they are charged with them is A-OK by you?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline G-Unit

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1758 on: June 13, 2020, 12:17:48 PM »
It seems therefore that accusing people of committing horrendous crimes before they are charged with them is A-OK by you?

To clarify; I do not approve of photos of anyone being posted alongside photos or photofits of people of interest in an investigation. That infers that they are the person of interest without any evidence of it being offered.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1759 on: June 13, 2020, 03:15:13 PM »
To clarify; I do not approve of photos of anyone being posted alongside photos or photofits of people of interest in an investigation. That infers that they are the person of interest without any evidence of it being offered.
So you must REALLY despair when pictures of Gerry are posted alongside pictures of the Smithman photofit.  Only, in reality of course you don’t.
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Offline Anthro

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1760 on: June 13, 2020, 07:40:33 PM »
So you must REALLY despair when pictures of Gerry are posted alongside pictures of the Smithman photofit.  Only, in reality of course you don’t.
Also depicting the couple as not grieving/happy.

Offline G-Unit

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1761 on: June 13, 2020, 07:46:04 PM »
So you must REALLY despair when pictures of Gerry are posted alongside pictures of the Smithman photofit.  Only, in reality of course you don’t.

There is evidence suggesting that he was the man seen by the witnesses who compiled the efits, so that's different. Afaik none of those recently targeted had anything to do with the case.
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Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1762 on: June 13, 2020, 08:20:50 PM »
There is evidence suggesting that he was the man seen by the witnesses who compiled the efits, so that's different. Afaik none of those recently targeted had anything to do with the case.
What evidence?

Offline G-Unit

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1763 on: June 13, 2020, 09:57:32 PM »
What evidence?

I would be 60-80% sure that it was Gerard McCann that I met that night carrying a child.

https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_SMITH.htm
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Offline Brietta

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1764 on: June 14, 2020, 12:58:47 AM »
I would be 60-80% sure that it was Gerard McCann that I met that night carrying a child.

https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_SMITH.htm

Mr McCluskey made exactly the same mistake of mis-identification that Mr Smith did ... and very likely for exactly the same reason.

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I've agonised for days over whether or not to contact the police about this because it is a terrible thing to accuse somebody of. It had just not crossed my mind that the child?s parents could in some way be involved in her disappearance.

I have watched a good deal of news coverage about the McCanns over the past week or so. Another thing which has played on my mind is the coverage of Mr McCann walking off the aeroplane holding one of his young children. The way he was holding the child over his left shoulder reminded me of the man carrying the child from the white van in Portugal.
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/RI_Mc.htm
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline misty

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1765 on: June 14, 2020, 03:14:29 AM »
I would be 60-80% sure that it was Gerard McCann that I met that night carrying a child.

https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_SMITH.htm

MS was also 20% to 40% unsure it was Gerry he saw carrying a child in long-sleeved pyjamas - a child MS couldn't identify at all as being Madeleine.

Offline G-Unit

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1766 on: June 14, 2020, 07:57:54 AM »
MS was also 20% to 40% unsure it was Gerry he saw carrying a child in long-sleeved pyjamas - a child MS couldn't identify at all as being Madeleine.

His evidence still connects Gerry McCann to the efits. Where is the evidence connecting the other people whose photos have been posted on this thread?
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1767 on: June 14, 2020, 08:18:06 AM »
There is evidence suggesting that he was the man seen by the witnesses who compiled the efits, so that's different. Afaik none of those recently targeted had anything to do with the case.
There is also evidence that Gerry was at the restaurant at the time, so you’re being somewhat selective with your evidence.
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Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1768 on: June 14, 2020, 08:35:53 AM »
There is also evidence that Gerry was at the restaurant at the time, so you’re being somewhat selective with your evidence.

IMO much of that evidence isn't reliable because timelines and the apparent inconsistencies have not been robustly tested.

Offline barrier

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1769 on: June 14, 2020, 08:55:34 AM »
MS was also 20% to 40% unsure it was Gerry he saw carrying a child in long-sleeved pyjamas - a child MS couldn't identify at all as being Madeleine.

Redwood:Carrying a child with a description very close to that of Madeleine Mccann.

What are the chances,one child not accounted for.
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