KM's Paperback (PB)

[Robittybob1]

I have explained that I read the book without context.

At the end of that reading, I concluded that though 'madeleine' was the title, she did not appear to be a principal character.

It is how she disappeared and the search for her that is the title of the book.

[Holly Goodhead]

You are obviously unaware of the concerted online attack on Kate’s book from Day 1 by McCann sceptics, many of whom had neither bought the book nor even read it before doling out the one star reviews.  Utterly pathetic behaviour but totally anticipated and par for the course.

Unlike other parents who have lost a child in tragic circumstances and subsequently written a book the McCanns don't come over as authentic imo. 

[Mr Gray]

We know they found it difficult to fess up to the fact they left the children in the unsecured apartment as KM tells us as much in her PB.  Plus it is widely agreed that in the immediate aftermath KM kept repeating over and over "We've let her down, we've let her down".

I agree with all if that... So what does the body language tell us that we don't already know

[Mr Gray]

Unlike other parents who have lost a child in tragic circumstances and subsequently written a book the McCanns don't come over as authentic imo.

What do you mean by authentic

Considering the book reviews the vast majority do see them as authentic

[misty]

But it can, it is clearly indicated in GM's statements in words which cannot possibly be a translation error. There is only one door that can be locked and unlocked from the outside and that is the front door leading to the car park. Similarly, there is only one sliding door into the lounge and that is the rear patio door.


G McCann Police Statement 11.15am on 4th May 2007

"As usual, every half hour and as the restaurant was near, the witness or his wife, would check whether the children were all right. In this way, at about 21.05 the witness came to the Club, entered the room using his respective key, the door being locked, went to his children's bedroom and checked that the twins were fine, as was Madeleine. "He then went to the WC" where he remained for a few moments, left..."

https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/GERRY-MCCANN.htm


G McCann Police Statement  3.20pm on 10th May 2007

"Despite what he said in his previous statements, he states now and with certainty, that he left with KATE by the rear door which he consequently closed but did not lock given that that is only possible from the inside. Referring to the front door, while he is certain that it was closed it is unlikely that it was locked as [because] they had left by the rear door."

"At 21H05 MATHEW returned, the time at which the deponent left the table to go to check how his children were.

----- He followed the normal route up to the rear door, which being open he only had to move [slide] it, that being the way in which he entered [was entering] the lounge..."

https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/P4/04_VOLUME_IVa_Page_891.jpg



Somehow I don't think one can blame an interpreter/translator for those words.

Gerry's statement of the 4th refers to "his respective key" but there was only one key. He said he used it to enter the apartment to check on the children.
His second statement on the 10th refers to how he exited the apartment with Kate, not the entry point for the subsequent checks.

[Robittybob1]

Gerry's statement of the 4th refers to "his respective key" but there was only one key. He said he used it to enter the apartment to check on the children.
His second statement on the 10th refers to how he exited the apartment with Kate, not the entry point for the subsequent checks.

But unless Gerry handed the key to Matt and Kate they have to enter via the unlocked patio door.  It is only Gerry who has the option of using the key on the front door.

[Holly Goodhead]

It is what Kate is willing to do for others too. I don't know them that well but there is  one detailed promise and that was that the find Madeleine fund would be used to help other missing children once Madeleine was found.

She writes a book it earns millions and she is willing to be charitable with the proceeds.

What has KM done for others? 

I'm not sure where you get millions from?  If MM is found and the fund has surplus to requirement funds what else could she use the funds for without it turning into a complete PR disaster?

No idea how reliable the following is but it seems the royalties could be used to fund their ongoing legal war with GA.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6581173/Madeleine-McCanns-parents-Kate-Gerry-saving-85-000-royalties-mothers-book.html

[Mr Gray]

Gerry's statement of the 4th refers to "his respective key" but there was only one key. He said he used it to enter the apartment to check on the children.
His second statement on the 10th refers to how he exited the apartment with Kate, not the entry point for the subsequent checks.

If there was only one key why would gerry refer to... His respective key... That simply cannot be an accurate account of what Gerry said.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Unlike other parents who have lost a child in tragic circumstances and subsequently written a book the McCanns don't come over as authentic imo.

Well you’re entitled to your opinion, but it’s odd that not one magazine or newspaper reviewer picked up on this alleged inauthenticity, most described the account as honest and frank, as well as devastating and moving.  Personally I think you are quite wrong.

[Holly Goodhead]

I agree with all if that... So what does the body language tell us that we don't already know

Anyone looking at GM's initial testimony objectively can see it is full of holes and I don't think to this day he has told the truth and that imo is why he starts scratching his nose and back of his neck. 

[Mr Gray]

Anyone looking at GM's initial testimony objectively can see it is full of holes and I don't think to this day he has told the truth and that imo is why he starts scratching his nose and back of his neck.

By his initial testimony are you referring to the twice translated non verbatim statement.. You have your opinion snd I think you are miles from the truth

[Mr Gray]

Gerry's statement of the 4th refers to "his respective key" but there was only one key. He said he used it to enter the apartment to check on the children.
His second statement on the 10th refers to how he exited the apartment with Kate, not the entry point for the subsequent checks.

Excellent point..


"Despite what he said in his previous statements, he states now and with certainty, that he left with KATE by the rear door which he consequently closed


So where in his previous statement does he make a contrary statement to leaving by the rear door... Gerry doesn't say in his previous statement which door he exited by with Kate... So where's the contradiction

[misty]

But unless Gerry handed the key to Matt and Kate they have to enter via the unlocked patio door.  It is only Gerry who has the option of using the key on the front door.

Matt & Kate both said they entered via the open patio door. Gerry having the key to the front door didn't change that. On previous evenings & during the day the front door had been Gerry's point of exit.
The translation for 10th May also refers to "statements". There is only one earlier statement in the files.

[Holly Goodhead]

As long as Gerry had the key he can enter the front and leave via the unlocked patio door.

I'm not sure what this has to do with GM claiming he left the apartment via the front door after his 9 pm ish check when in fact he left via the patio doors?

[Holly Goodhead]

By his initial testimony are you referring to the twice translated non verbatim statement.. You have your opinion snd I think you are miles from the truth

I will start up a new thread to discuss.