KM's Paperback (PB)

[Brietta]

I personally think they would have been better off just sticking their hands up, metaphorically speaking, and saying we made a massive error in judgement which we will have to live with for the rest of our lives no ifs, no buts.  Instead of attempting to justify why they didn't use the creche/hire a sitter and trying to convince us all it was similar to eating in the garden at home when it jolly well wasn't!

You seem to be referring to an entirely different book from the one I read which is dripping with the regrets of an anguished mother driven to the brink of madness (nuttiness? mental health issues?) by the loss of her daughter including leaving her children alone.

You do realise the events you describe all happened over twelve years ago?  In what way do you think your and others constant revisiting of them advances Madeleine's case in any way whatsoever?

[Holly Goodhead]

Why do you think Kate cones over to others, as a really nice... Kind.. Considerate parent

In what way do you believe KM comes over as "really nice...Kind?

I disagree that she comes over as a considerate parent on the basis that she put her own needs before that of her children in terms of leaving them alone every evening in an unsecured holiday apartment Sun - Thu.  She did not need to go to tapas every evening.  Her and GM could have taken it in turns with one baby-sitting.  They did not think it through before arriving in resort to the point they could have taken a baby monitor. 

[jassi]

You seem to be referring to an entirely different book from the one I read which is dripping with the regrets of an anguished mother driven to the brink of madness (nuttiness? mental health issues?) by the loss of her daughter including leaving her children alone.

You do realise the events you describe all happened over twelve years ago?  In what way do you think your and others constant revisiting of them advances Madeleine's case in any way whatsoever?

Nothing advances Madeleine's case, including aggressive defence of the McCann position by a handful of supporters, but that doesn't seem to deter them.

[Holly Goodhead]

You seem to be referring to an entirely different book from the one I read which is dripping with the regrets of an anguished mother driven to the brink of madness (nuttiness? mental health issues?) by the loss of her daughter including leaving her children alone.

Same book but we probably have different backgrounds/personalities and therefore interpret differently.

You do realise the events you describe all happened over twelve years ago? In what way do you think your and others constant revisiting of them advances Madeleine's case in any way whatsoever?

There's no need for facetious comments.

I personally find it interesting to dissect the book and the author.  If others do they will join in if they don't they won't. 

[Mr Gray]

In what way do you believe KM comes over as "really nice...Kind?

I disagree that she comes over as a considerate parent on the basis that she put her own needs before that of her children in terms of leaving them alone every evening in an unsecured holiday apartment Sun - Thu.  She did not need to go to tapas every evening.  Her and GM could have taken it in turns with one baby-sitting.  They did not think it through before arriving in resort to the point they could have taken a baby monitor.

I would say they believed what they were doing was perfectly safe.... And felt it better the children got the right amount if sleep

[The General]

I would say they believed what they were doing was perfectly safe.... And felt it better the children got the right amount if sleep

Is that your opinion, having read Kate's paperback?

[Brietta]

Nothing advances Madeleine's case, including aggressive defence of the McCann position by a handful of supporters, but that doesn't seem to deter them.

I disagree.  Madeleine's parents advanced her case by sheer determination and grit.  They never gave up on her and used every manner of means including writing a book to finance their efforts. The police review starting in 2011 leading to the reopening of Madeleine's case which is still a live one would never happened without their efforts on her behalf despite all the active and passive hostility thrown at them over the years ... and which also continues till this day.

A really weird course of action for two people allegedly anxious to cover up for their actions in my opinion.

[Mr Gray]

Same book but we probably have different backgrounds/personalities and therefore interpret differently.

There's no need for facetious comments.

I personally find it interesting to dissect the book and the author.  If others do they will join in if they don't they won't.

It might be interesting to you but to most others your opinion is not really of any interest because in the main part it is, so subjective

[Brietta]

Same book but we probably have different backgrounds/personalities and therefore interpret differently.

There's no need for facetious comments.

I personally find it interesting to dissect the book and the author.  If others do they will join in if they don't they won't.

To rephrase the question I asked in the vain hope of receiving an answer for a pleasant change ...
Kate wrote her book about Madeleine's disappearance twelve years ago and its aftermath.  There are constant references to events of the time which happened then and cannot be changed now such as the unlocked patio door.  In what way do you think the constant internet driven revisiting of them advances Madeleine's case in any way whatsoever?

[Holly Goodhead]

I would say they believed what they were doing was perfectly safe.... And felt it better the children got the right amount if sleep

I would say most mature and responsible parents wouldn't consider it perfectly safe to leave 3 small children under 4 yoa night after night in an unlocked holiday apartment.  A view endorsed by the NSPCC:

There might not be a specific legal age to leave children alone but it’s safe to say babies, toddlers and young children should never be left alone, even if it’s just while you pop down the road. Even if they’re sleeping peacefully when you leave they could well wake up and get very upset when you’re not there to look after them. They would not be able to protect themselves in an emergency and may even try to leave the property to find you.

https://www.nspcc.org.uk/preventing-abuse/keeping-children-safe/leaving-child-home-alone

What prevented the McCanns from taking it in turns to sit the children of an evening?

[jassi]

It might be interesting to you but to most others your opinion is not really of any interest because in the main part it is, so subjective

No interest of all, which, of course, is why her views were hammered yesterday by rampant supporters

[Mr Gray]

I would say most mature and responsible parents wouldn't consider it perfectly safe to leave 3 small children under 4 yoa night after night in an unlocked holiday apartment.  A view endorsed by the NSPCC:

There might not be a specific legal age to leave children alone but it’s safe to say babies, toddlers and young children should never be left alone, even if it’s just while you pop down the road. Even if they’re sleeping peacefully when you leave they could well wake up and get very upset when you’re not there to look after them. They would not be able to protect themselves in an emergency and may even try to leave the property to find you.

https://www.nspcc.org.uk/preventing-abuse/keeping-children-safe/leaving-child-home-alone

What prevented the McCanns from taking it in turns to sit the children of an evening?

Having discussed this point countless times over several years I'm not interested in going through it, all again... You have your opinion abd others have theirs

[Holly Goodhead]

To rephrase the question I asked in the vain hope of receiving an answer for a pleasant change ...
Kate wrote her book about Madeleine's disappearance twelve years ago and its aftermath.  There are constant references to events of the time which happened then and cannot be changed now such as the unlocked patio door.  In what way do you think the constant internet driven revisiting of them advances Madeleine's case in any way whatsoever?

Again no need for the facetious comment.

If you care to look back over my posts on this board you will see I have placed a lot of emphasis on the unsecured patio doors from the off.  Imo it is key to solving the case.  My theory/suspects are built around this fact but I couldn't work out to start with why others, lay and professional, didn't appear to place the sort of emphasis on the unsecured patio doors that I have.  When I started to look into it in more detail I came to the conclusion that the McCanns played this down from the off and others have pretty much followed.   

[Holly Goodhead]

It might be interesting to you but to most others your opinion is not really of any interest because in the main part it is, so subjective

Students and professionals study and dissect all sorts of subjective material ranging from religious books to literature from the likes of Shakespeare which includes dissecting the personalities of the main protagonists.  What we're doing here is no different and I personally find it interesting to debate and discuss KM and the contents of her book in microscopic detail.  If others do they will join in if they don't they won't.   

[Miss Taken Identity]

Nothing advances Madeleine's case, including aggressive defence of the McCann position by a handful of supporters, but that doesn't seem to deter them.

One reason for that is the tinternet [police people who are scouring the web for any critisism of the McCanns - to be squashed. and some here may believe Kates mum may be reading and may get upset. I am not sure if more or less upset than BL's family but there you go.

Better authors than Kate have been slammed for their writings. one such man had a fatwa against him [salaman Rushdie] was to be executed for saying percieved unkind words about a sky fairy. Such was the offence by devoted followers of a book written by a guy.

I say better authors, my non muslim friend who did read it after all the publicity, said "it was 'dire'"

I agree with Holly on the way Kate wrote this book, hence why I didn't buy it or read it, I guessed what it would be like and I was proved correct by friends who did read it.

My opinion of Kate and Gerry are based on their behaviour before and after Madeleine's disappearance.