KM's Paperback (PB)

[jassi]

just because  a court rules on a disputed verdict that joanna died does not make it a fact...that is a simple truth

Who is disputing the verdict ? - anyone of consequence ?

[Mr Gray]

Who is disputing the verdict ? - anyone of consequence ?

if you read the article where GA is interviewd by  a portuguese journalist ...it seems very few portuguese think cipraino is guilty

[Wonderfulspam]

Its on this thread ...from you...that the mccanns did it...that doesnt make it true. It seems to me the pj told a lot of lies about the case....they lied in court re the torture trial...amaral was convicted of lying....I see no raeson to believe a word they say

You surprise me.

[jassi]

if you read the article where GA is interviewd by  a portuguese journalist ...it seems very few portuguese think cipraino is guilty

It doesn't matter what people think - its action that counts

[Mr Gray]

You surprise me.

you never surprise me

[Mr Gray]

It doesn't matter what people think - its action that counts

im just giving my opinion based on the facts...nothing here counts...not sure why I bother

[Wonderfulspam]

Who is disputing the verdict ? - anyone of consequence ?

The Cipriano's mother wants nothing to do with the pair.

Mum knows best.

https://www.portugalresident.com/2019/03/12/tragic-joanas-uncle-out-of-jail-after-15-years/

[jassi]

im just giving my opinion based on the facts...nothing here counts...not sure why I bother

That's right - your opinion counts for tiddly squat, particularly where legal decisions are concerned.

[Mr Gray]

That's right - your opinion counts for tiddly squat, particularly where legal decisions are concerned.

as does everyone elses opinion...but facts are important....and the fact cipriano was found guilty ...does not mean
1.  she is guilty
2. joanna is dead


so you can say the court found leonora guilty ... thats a fact...but its not  afact she is guilty and its not  a fact joanna is dead

[Mr Gray]

The Cipriano's mother wants nothing to do with the pair.

Mum knows best.

https://www.portugalresident.com/2019/03/12/tragic-joanas-uncle-out-of-jail-after-15-years/

that isnt leonoras mother

[jassi]

As far as the Portuguese court is concerned she is. Get over it.

[Mr Gray]

As far as the Portuguese court is concerned she is. Get over it.

that isnt true either...its tiresome having to explain basic facts to posters who claim to have a level of intelligence..
the court ruling is not an absolute statement of fact...its merely the courts opinion based on teh evidence presented..
its quite possible taht with a very good lawyer cipriano cold ahve been found not guilty...thats a fact too

[pathfinder73]

could we have  a cite for this

Witness AA7, military of GNR, said that on 13 September 2004, at the GNR Post of Portimão, between 10h30m / 11h, received the complaint of the disappearance of the CC. It was the mother who made the complaint, accompanied by defendant AA. Defendant BB looked sad but did not cry. The witness received the photographs her mother was taking and asked if there was any reason for CC to run away from home or if she had any suspicions, and the accused BB replied no.

[Wonderfulspam]

Joana would now be 22.

Where is she?

Still locked in the paedos dungeon with Maddie, Shergar & Lord Lucan?

[jassi]

that isnt true either...its tiresome having to explain basic facts to posters who claim to have a level of intelligence..
the court ruling is not an absolute statement of fact...

We don't live in a world of abstracts. The courts decision is final - unless countered by a higher court.