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Offline Mr Gray

Re: KM's Paperback (PB)
« Reply #975 on: November 03, 2019, 07:15:11 PM »

We don't live in a world of abstracts. The courts decision is final - unless countered by a higher court.

i never said it wasnt final....I just explained what it means to you  the courts decision is a statement of opinion...not fact
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: KM's Paperback (PB)
« Reply #976 on: November 03, 2019, 07:17:09 PM »
Witness AA7, military of GNR, said that on 13 September 2004, at the GNR Post of Portimão, between 10h30m / 11h, received the complaint of the disappearance of the CC. It was the mother who made the complaint, accompanied by defendant AA. Defendant BB looked sad but did not cry. The witness received the photographs her mother was taking and asked if there was any reason for CC to run away from home or if she had any suspicions, and the accused BB replied no.

the court also claimed the blood belonged to joanna ...which has never been confirmed

Offline jassi

Re: KM's Paperback (PB)
« Reply #977 on: November 03, 2019, 07:18:55 PM »
i never said it wasnt final....I just explained what it means to you

So it doesn't matter what you think.

To give a trivial example -
You get caught by a police speed van. You dispute you were speeding and take it to court. You lose.
You may believe you weren't speed, but you still have the three points.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: KM's Paperback (PB)
« Reply #978 on: November 03, 2019, 07:19:02 PM »
It's all here on the Cipriano thread.

The shop owner called the police the day after Joana disappeared.

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=2966.0
How did the shop owner know Joana hadn’t got home?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Mr Gray

Re: KM's Paperback (PB)
« Reply #979 on: November 03, 2019, 07:20:58 PM »
So it doesn't matter what you think.

To give a trivial example -
You get caught by a police speed van. You dispute you were speeding and take it to court. You lose.
You may believe you weren't speed, but you still have the three points.

so what evidence was there that you were speeding....just  a policemans statement..has anyone been convicted of speeding on  apolicemans statement

Offline jassi

Re: KM's Paperback (PB)
« Reply #980 on: November 03, 2019, 07:22:43 PM »
so what evidence was there that you were speeding....just  a policemans statement..

And the camera recording - but it doesn't matter, the court decision means you still get the fine and the points.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Brietta

Re: KM's Paperback (PB)
« Reply #981 on: November 03, 2019, 07:26:57 PM »
Way way way Off Topic folks ... please get back to  Kate's book.  I will leave what has been posted for John to decide what happens to it ... I'm going to start deleting anything which is off topic.  Thank you
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Mr Gray

Re: KM's Paperback (PB)
« Reply #982 on: November 03, 2019, 07:28:30 PM »
And the camera recording - but it doesn't matter, the court decision means you still get the fine and the points.

did they have a camera recording in the cipriano case...thats pretty strong evidence. thats why they have camera recordings because a policemans statement simply isnt good enough

Offline Mr Gray

Re: KM's Paperback (PB)
« Reply #983 on: November 03, 2019, 07:29:23 PM »
Way way way Off Topic folks ... please get back to  Kate's book.  I will leave what has been posted for John to decide what happens to it ... I'm going to start deleting anything which is off topic.  Thank you

thats fine brietta ...could you have aword with angelo about taking threads off topic..if the rules had been enforced his post would have been deleted as it should have been

Offline Angelo222

Re: KM's Paperback (PB)
« Reply #984 on: November 03, 2019, 07:44:48 PM »
they have never  had the opportunuty to prove their non involvemnent...dont say the recon or answering 48 stupid queswtions would have proved anytyhing...it patently wouldnt.

The Mccanns did fully assist the police  and it was only when it became clear to them that the PJ hadnt got  a clue it became neccessary to do something to stop the silly games the pj were playing. Its called put up or shut up...and thats what kate did....kate exposed the fact that the PJ had no real evidence against her and were just on a fishing trip to try and find some. Well done Kate...she did exactly the right thing

A pathetic excuse if I may say so.
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Offline Angelo222

Re: KM's Paperback (PB)
« Reply #985 on: November 03, 2019, 07:47:14 PM »
When are you going to substantiate your claim that the Supreme Court still considers the McCanns are suspects in their child’s disappearance?  Ever?

Well the SC did state that they haven't been proved innocent.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/02/09/madeleine-mccanns-parents-have-not-ruled-innocent-judge-says/
De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

Je ne regrette rien!!

Offline Mr Gray

Re: KM's Paperback (PB)
« Reply #986 on: November 03, 2019, 07:48:09 PM »
A pathetic excuse if I may say so.

and  a pathetic respnse from you ...if I may say so...which does not address any of the points ive raised...its also off topic which Brietta has said she will remove

Offline G-Unit

Re: KM's Paperback (PB)
« Reply #987 on: November 03, 2019, 07:48:53 PM »
The McCanns took to Luis Neves more than they did to Encarnacao;

He seemed intelligent, personable and strong, open to suggestions and new ideas. My initial impressions of him were all positive. Iwrote in my diary that night: A good fella; on the ball; humanitarian, sensitive. [madeleine]

Then, on 8th August 2007 the two men decided to interrogate the couple;

Neves stated bluntly that they didn’t believe my version of events...’ I was in no doubt now that they were trying
to make me say I’d killed Madeleine or knew what had happened to her...In a slightly threatening manner, Luís asked why I wasn’t looking him straight in the eye. There was no reason, other than that I was incapable of looking at anyone properly: my own eyes were so swollen and sore that I was struggling to keep them from closing
completely [madeleine]

Outside the police station we were surrounded by the press. There was no need to ask how they knew we were there. [madeleine]

So according to Kate McCann then the now (2019) head of the PJ interviewed people he clearly saw as suspects and asked them questions which should only be asked of arguidos and without them having a lawyer and interpreter of their choice present.

What a pity she can't prove it happened; the interview wasn't recorded, the media didn't manage to even get a photograph and she doesn't seem to have complained officially about this breach of their human rights.
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Offline Angelo222

Re: KM's Paperback (PB)
« Reply #988 on: November 03, 2019, 07:49:26 PM »
more off topic..and opinion presented as fact...do you have no respect for the rules of the forum

Not off topic at all. Someone claimed that the offerings in Kate McCann's book were corroborated, I merely pointed out that most have not been.
De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

Je ne regrette rien!!

Offline Mr Gray

Re: KM's Paperback (PB)
« Reply #989 on: November 03, 2019, 07:50:13 PM »
Well the SC did state that they haven't been proved innocent.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/02/09/madeleine-mccanns-parents-have-not-ruled-innocent-judge-says/

more off topic...of course they havent been ruled innocent...no court in any country rules anyone innocent....again Im surprised I have to post this basic fact