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Offline Brietta

Re: T9 And Security Of Holiday Apartments
« Reply #120 on: December 22, 2019, 02:15:50 PM »
I have seen nothing to suggest that the security of the apartments was inadequate, because I have seen no reports of the apartments being broken into. What I have seen suggests that those occupying the apartments were careless about security.

on 16th April 2007 there was a theft from an apartment in Block 5 L, from where a plasma display screen, credit cards and a mobile phone belonging to the respective guests were taken.

As far as she knows, as she prepared the papers for the insurance company, the theft took place at the end of the day and according to the guests the event happened when they had left for dinner after completing check in and having left their suitcases in the apartment.

She says that she does not remember having been told that doors or windows had been forced, the guests having said that they had just left the door on the latch
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARIA-GONCALVES.htm
Spate of burglaries may be key to Madeleine abduction

A rise in local burglaries that peaked in the month Madeleine McCann disappeared are also being studied by Scotland Yard detectives who are investigating whether the three-year-old may have disturbed a break-in before being snatched.

"Whilst the numbers are low, we can see that there was an increase in burglary in Praia de Luz between January and April 2007 that spiked in April 2007," Detective Chief Inspector Andy Redwood said.

"Windows were a feature, as well as burglaries taking place in the evening."

Police are also interested in an incident that occurred in Praia da Luz in 2006 when a man, described as white with dark hair, rummaged through an apartment in which two children were inside before leaving empty handed.

Last updated Sun 15 Dec 2013

https://www.itv.com/news/update/2013-10-14/spate-of-burglaries-may-be-key-to-madeleine-abduction/
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Anthro

Re: T9 And Security Of Holiday Apartments
« Reply #121 on: December 22, 2019, 02:17:05 PM »
Since Jane Tanner watched Gerry McCann and Julian Totman play tennis on the 3rd of May, isn’t it odd that she did not recognise him as the person carrying a girl?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: T9 And Security Of Holiday Apartments
« Reply #122 on: December 22, 2019, 02:22:16 PM »
Spate of burglaries may be key to Madeleine abduction

A rise in local burglaries that peaked in the month Madeleine McCann disappeared are also being studied by Scotland Yard detectives who are investigating whether the three-year-old may have disturbed a break-in before being snatched.

"Whilst the numbers are low, we can see that there was an increase in burglary in Praia de Luz between January and April 2007 that spiked in April 2007," Detective Chief Inspector Andy Redwood said.

"Windows were a feature, as well as burglaries taking place in the evening."

Police are also interested in an incident that occurred in Praia da Luz in 2006 when a man, described as white with dark hair, rummaged through an apartment in which two children were inside before leaving empty handed.

Last updated Sun 15 Dec 2013

https://www.itv.com/news/update/2013-10-14/spate-of-burglaries-may-be-key-to-madeleine-abduction/

So Redwood confirms  a spate of burglaries and conforms windows beding a feature...interesting

Offline Brietta

Re: T9 And Security Of Holiday Apartments
« Reply #123 on: December 22, 2019, 02:27:02 PM »
Since Jane Tanner watched Gerry McCann and Julian Totman play tennis on the 3rd of May, isn’t it odd that she did not recognise him as the person carrying a girl?

I think that is the first time I have seen that point raised.  From the still photographs I have seen I think Dr Totman would have been easily identified by anyone who had seen him particularly had it been that day.

I think had that been the man seen by Jane ... I am sure she would have recognised him.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Brietta

Re: T9 And Security Of Holiday Apartments
« Reply #124 on: December 22, 2019, 02:32:05 PM »
So Redwood confirms  a spate of burglaries and conforms windows beding a feature...interesting

Which is probably why Scotland Yard wished to question confirmed burglars who were active in Luz at that time, giving them the protection of arguido status.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline The General

Re: T9 And Security Of Holiday Apartments
« Reply #125 on: December 22, 2019, 02:43:00 PM »
So Redwood confirms  a spate of burglaries and conforms windows beding a feature...interesting
Mildly interesting 6 years ago, but obviously barking up the wrong tree.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: T9 And Security Of Holiday Apartments
« Reply #126 on: December 22, 2019, 02:43:48 PM »
Since Jane Tanner watched Gerry McCann and Julian Totman play tennis on the 3rd of May, isn’t it odd that she did not recognise him as the person carrying a girl?

Operation Grange never named the man who they identified. It was the newspapers who said it was Dr. Totman.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: T9 And Security Of Holiday Apartments
« Reply #127 on: December 22, 2019, 02:46:34 PM »
Mildly interesting 6 years ago, but obviously barking up the wrong tree.

not necessarily...if an apartment had been broken into via raised shutters that would be highly significant

Offline The General

Re: T9 And Security Of Holiday Apartments
« Reply #128 on: December 22, 2019, 02:49:59 PM »
not necessarily...if an apartment had been broken into via raised shutters that would be highly significant
You'd think so, right. But yet here we are, 6 years later and whatever leads Redwood and his band of coppers investigated led to sweet Fanny Adams.
So mildly interesting 6 years ago, not now. It's as interesting as Malinka's hard drive contents, or Murat's mother's poster stall.
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Offline Anthro

Re: T9 And Security Of Holiday Apartments
« Reply #129 on: December 22, 2019, 02:51:24 PM »
I agree, Brietta. Jane spent half an hour watching them play tennis. To me, enough time to get a sense of what he looked like.

Offline Anthro

Re: T9 And Security Of Holiday Apartments
« Reply #130 on: December 22, 2019, 02:53:49 PM »
I realise that, G-Unit. Who else can this holidaymaker be?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: T9 And Security Of Holiday Apartments
« Reply #131 on: December 22, 2019, 02:54:38 PM »
You'd think so, right. But yet here we are, 6 years later and whatever leads Redwood and his band of coppers investigated led to sweet Fanny Adams.
So mildly interesting 6 years ago, not now. It's as interesting as Malinka's hard drive contents, or Murat's mother's poster stall.

we dont know  what SY are looking at now. If the raised shutter were a common thread then I think its common sense to see their significance. There are no doubt other burglars in portugal apart from the ones we know SY interviewed

Offline The General

Re: T9 And Security Of Holiday Apartments
« Reply #132 on: December 22, 2019, 02:55:10 PM »
I agree, Brietta. Jane spent half an hour watching them play tennis. To me, enough time to get a sense of what he looked like.
That means......wait, what? Two fellas walking off with kids in their arms?
Looks like we've finally got the breakthrough!
Congrats team; years of painstaking analysis comes to fruition with this seemingly innocuous fact.
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Offline The General

Re: T9 And Security Of Holiday Apartments
« Reply #133 on: December 22, 2019, 02:56:51 PM »
we dont know  what SY are looking at now. If the raised shutter were a common thread then I think its common sense to see their significance. There are no doubt other burglars in portugal apart from the ones we know SY interviewed
You're right, maybe they've waited 6 years to investigate this angle for reasons only known to them.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: T9 And Security Of Holiday Apartments
« Reply #134 on: December 22, 2019, 02:57:30 PM »
You're right, maybe they've waited 6 years to investigate this angle for reasons only known to them.

what they are investigating is only known to them