T9 And Security Of Holiday Apartments

[misty]

he could have done just the same from the UK

Within a few days of the Totman's returning to UK, Murat was taken in for questioning & under suspicion of being Tannerman. It's possible the family felt their information was no longer relevant at that time.

[Miss Taken Identity]

You think the individual described by Tanner/Smiths are similar?  I will reread the Smiths' testimony. 

Wld Dr T have any obvious reason to be in the vicinity of the Smith sighting?  And what about the times?

Little girls' pj's tend to be similar in appearance. 

To my mind these sightings are in all probability red herrings.  If a man was seen carrying a child around central London during hours of dusk/darkness it might arouse suspicion but in a sleepy resort on the Algarve coast where a night crèche operated I think not.

Indeed, and it would have been interesting if Totman aka 'abductor suspect' was questioned as to why his child was carried outside with no shoes and  warm clothing on such a cold night.  JT was affected by the fact she had no shoes on. bad parenting"
!  she says this while going to check on her sick child who was left alone everynight.

[Anthro]

This morning I watched ‘The Mystery of Madeleine McCann’ (2019) on the ID channel. Colin Sutton actually named Julian Totman as being ‘Tannerman’. Has anyone else seen this?

[G-Unit]

IMO it is important to know that the Totmans stayed for 2 weeks. They were there in the aftermath of Madeleine' disappearance and heard about the time, location & description of the man + child seen by Jane Tanner. This description prompted them to tell GNR or PJ that they thought Tannerman was Dr Totman himself. We can only speculate as to why PJ failed to investigate & eliminate Tannerman during the early days but imo there was an ulterior motive for not doing so.

Who informed the Totmans about the time, location and description of the man + child seen by Jane Tanner?

[misty]

Who informed the Totmans about the time, location and description of the man + child seen by Jane Tanner?

That would have been anyone from the group of people who knew about Jane's sighting.
How did local Mark McCarrick know on morning 4th May that 5A patio doors were unlocked?

[G-Unit]

That would have been anyone from the group of people who knew about Jane's sighting.
How did local Mark McCarrick know on morning 4th May that 5A patio doors were unlocked?

Are you suggesting that the T9 were going around spreading the news? That makes me wonder why Dr Totman didn't respond with 'That might have been me'.

Did Mark McCarrick know on 4th that 5A patio doors were unlocked?

[misty]

Are you suggesting that the T9 were going around spreading the news? That makes me wonder why Dr Totman didn't respond with 'That might have been me'.

Did Mark McCarrick know on 4th that 5A patio doors were unlocked?

I'm pretty sure there was a translator present when Jane told the Portuguese police about the man she'd seen so that's one potential source of news outside the Tapas 9. PJ were doing door-to-door with a description of their main suspect, which must have entailed a little more than "we're looking for a man".

Mark McCarrick comments in this article (which seems to relate to events related to 4th May.)
http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/press/1may7/Express_05_05_2007.htm

*snipped*
Praia da Luz resident Mark McCarrick said the girl might have simply walked out of her room.

“The parents left the door ajar so they could keep going over and looking at her,” he said. “We are hoping that because the door was open, she just walked out.”

The McCarricks knew Bridget O'Donnell through their joint estate agency business.

[Brietta]

It has never been explained why Totman never came forward voluntarily to clear this sighting up when Tannerman was all over the papers but instead waited until DCI Redman sought him out.

Snip
In October 2007 the McCanns put out a sketch of the Tannerman but Mr Totman had already told the Guarda Nacional Republicana in May that it was probably him but they kept looking for the suspect.

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She told The Sun: 'My husband had told the local police it could be him but we didn't hear anything for years.

'We always thought it was Julian who was seen by Jane Tanner. But the national police who investigated didn't get back to us and we don't know if our information was ever passed on.' 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5698933/Madeleine-McCann-police-spent-four-years-trying-ID-man-GP-said-him.html


They reported Dr Totman's movements to the GNR in May 2007.  Quite possibly at the same time when Robert Murat and a police officer were apparently doing a house to house in Block 4.  If you remember Bridget O'Donnell wrote of her despair when the officer asked her who Madeleine was when looking at the photographs the McCann friends had circulated when searching for Madeleine.

She recorded that the officer had no notebook and used a piece of paper to take notes.  How easy would it have been to mislay a scrap of paper with vital information written on it ?

It was reported that Rebelo was incensed at the state of the paperwork when he saw it when taking over the investigation from Amaral and it took his team a considerable amount of precious time to organise it into some sort of order.

[G-Unit]

I'm pretty sure there was a translator present when Jane told the Portuguese police about the man she'd seen so that's one potential source of news outside the Tapas 9. PJ were doing door-to-door with a description of their main suspect, which must have entailed a little more than "we're looking for a man".

Mark McCarrick comments in this article (which seems to relate to events related to 4th May.)
http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/press/1may7/Express_05_05_2007.htm

*snipped*
Praia da Luz resident Mark McCarrick said the girl might have simply walked out of her room.

“The parents left the door ajar so they could keep going over and looking at her,” he said. “We are hoping that because the door was open, she just walked out.”

The McCarricks knew Bridget O'Donnell through their joint estate agency business.

Sylvia Batista translated, but whether she talked about what she heard isn't known.

I thought it was the GNR who did the door to door visits, assisted by OC employees. It isn't recorded what they said during those visits.

The news about the open patio doors was in The Times on 4th May, so quite it's possible that McCarrick could comment on 5th to the Express.

[Robittybob1]

Somewhere it said?  Where?  Who said?

From memory:
It was on the MW "booking sheet", (but not on the one that was cited).   I remember commenting on this about year ago.  Totman (from memory it said) booked the room in block 4 for two weeks so he could use the creche and other facilities but he wasn't staying there for the first week.  Which gave the possibility him carrying his daughter in the other direction after 9:00 PM.  Hence he may have been going from Block 4 toward his other accommodation.   It was still the first week of his holiday.

I also wish Totman would comment directly on the subject.

[Robittybob1]

This is typical of the fixation with trivia that some people think is so important ....why does it matter how long Totman stayed

It is part of Jez Wilkins' statement.  He brought up how if the McCanns were going to stay longer they would have had other ways of looking after the kids.

[Robittybob1]

This morning I watched ‘The Mystery of Madeleine McCann’ (2019) on the ID channel. Colin Sutton actually named Julian Totman as being ‘Tannerman’. Has anyone else seen this?

Where is that found?  I see a short trailer for the documentary.

[barrier]

From memory:
It was on the MW "booking sheet", (but not on the one that was cited).   I remember commenting on this about year ago.  Totman (from memory it said) booked the room in block 4 for two weeks so he could use the creche and other facilities but he wasn't staying there for the first week.  Which gave the possibility him carrying his daughter in the other direction after 9:00 PM.  Hence he may have been going from Block 4 toward his other accommodation.   It was still the first week of his holiday.

I also wish Totman would comment directly on the subject.

Redwood 2013 Crimewatch special,family not singular.

21:40 in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZ8jmdWlB8Y
Eight families had left 11 children in there, one particular family we spoke to gave us information that was interesting and exciting.

[Anthro]

Hi Rob, the program is currently on the ID channel. I came across it and watched.

[misty]

From memory:
It was on the MW "booking sheet", (but not on the one that was cited).   I remember commenting on this about year ago.  Totman (from memory it said) booked the room in block 4 for two weeks so he could use the creche and other facilities but he wasn't staying there for the first week.  Which gave the possibility him carrying his daughter in the other direction after 9:00 PM.  Hence he may have been going from Block 4 toward his other accommodation.   It was still the first week of his holiday.

I also wish Totman would comment directly on the subject.

The Totmans dined at the Tapas Bar on Tues 1st May & their room number was recorded as G4M.
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/T/03_VOLUME_IIIa_Page_606.jpg