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Offline G-Unit

Re: T9 And Security Of Holiday Apartments
« Reply #240 on: December 23, 2019, 08:45:21 PM »
From memory:
It was on the MW "booking sheet", (but not on the one that was cited).   I remember commenting on this about year ago.  Totman (from memory it said) booked the room in block 4 for two weeks so he could use the creche and other facilities but he wasn't staying there for the first week.  Which gave the possibility him carrying his daughter in the other direction after 9:00 PM.  Hence he may have been going from Block 4 toward his other accommodation.   It was still the first week of his holiday.

I also wish Totman would comment directly on the subject.

Memory? Find the cite Rob.
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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: T9 And Security Of Holiday Apartments
« Reply #241 on: December 23, 2019, 08:46:28 PM »
Are you suggesting that the T9 were going around spreading the news? That makes me wonder why Dr Totman didn't respond with 'That might have been me'.

Did Mark McCarrick know on 4th that 5A patio doors were unlocked?


G unit. when was the unlocked patio doors mentioned. was it mentioned to Fiona during the meal ( It has been claimed Kate wasn't happy about leaving the children alone that night- Gerry intervened, hence leaving a door unlocked for MBM to go and get them.
Is there any mention of this anywhere?
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Offline G-Unit

Re: T9 And Security Of Holiday Apartments
« Reply #242 on: December 23, 2019, 09:02:44 PM »

G unit. when was the unlocked patio doors mentioned. was it mentioned to Fiona during the meal ( It has been claimed Kate wasn't happy about leaving the children alone that night- Gerry intervened, hence leaving a door unlocked for MBM to go and get them.
Is there any mention of this anywhere?

Fiona only mentioned that conversation in her rogatory interview, a long time after the event. She did say Kate was unsure about leaving the door unlocked so Madeleine could get out and find them (I think).
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Offline The General

Re: T9 And Security Of Holiday Apartments
« Reply #243 on: December 23, 2019, 09:06:10 PM »
Fiona only mentioned that conversation in her rogatory interview, a long time after the event. She did say Kate was unsure about leaving the door unlocked so Madeleine could get out and find them (I think).
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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: T9 And Security Of Holiday Apartments
« Reply #244 on: December 23, 2019, 09:08:51 PM »
Fiona only mentioned that conversation in her rogatory interview, a long time after the event. She did say Kate was unsure about leaving the door unlocked so Madeleine could get out and find them (I think).

So it has been established that the door was indeed left unlocked?. and all the while this was not mentioned to the press in the begining to offer and alternative for an 'abductor' to enter and exit the building?
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: T9 And Security Of Holiday Apartments
« Reply #245 on: December 23, 2019, 09:10:58 PM »
So it has been established that the door was indeed left unlocked?. and all the while this was not mentioned to the press in the begining to offer and alternative for an 'abductor' to enter and exit the building?

Kate mentions it in her initial statement... 4th of may

Offline G-Unit

Re: T9 And Security Of Holiday Apartments
« Reply #246 on: December 23, 2019, 09:16:39 PM »
Before or after the summit meeting?

After.
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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: T9 And Security Of Holiday Apartments
« Reply #247 on: December 23, 2019, 09:22:26 PM »
Fiona only mentioned that conversation in her rogatory interview, a long time after the event. She did say Kate was unsure about leaving the door unlocked so Madeleine could get out and find them (I think).

Would Madeleine really have been capable of operating the child lock on the child gate?

Not much of a child lock if she could.
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Re: T9 And Security Of Holiday Apartments
« Reply #248 on: December 23, 2019, 09:30:33 PM »
Would Madeleine really have been capable of operating the child lock on the child gate?

Not much of a child lock if she could.

I don't know what ages those small gates go up to, but most almost 4 year olds can cope with ungated stairs. No-one knows if the gate was closed/locked either. If it was and her parents knew she couldn't open it then there was no way they left the patio doors unlocked so she could get out and find them, is there?
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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: T9 And Security Of Holiday Apartments
« Reply #249 on: December 23, 2019, 09:37:18 PM »
I don't know what ages those small gates go up to, but most almost 4 year olds can cope with ungated stairs. No-one knows if the gate was closed/locked either. If it was and her parents knew she couldn't open it then there was no way they left the patio doors unlocked so she could get out and find them, is there?

According to Kate the child gate, gate, patio doors & curtains were all found closed when she did her 10pm check.

As it's a McCann claiming this I'm inclined to believe they were all in fact open, since I don't believe a word that comes out of their mouths.
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Offline Brietta

Re: T9 And Security Of Holiday Apartments
« Reply #250 on: December 23, 2019, 10:02:00 PM »
So it has been established that the door was indeed left unlocked?. and all the while this was not mentioned to the press in the begining to offer and alternative for an 'abductor' to enter and exit the building?

Madeleine's parents 'left patio doors unlocked'

Last updated at 16:53 13 May 2007

Police in Portugal are working on the theory that Madeleine was snatched through patio doors left unlocked by her parents as they dined just 40 yards away.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-454466/Madeleines-parents-left-patio-doors-unlocked.html



You are really going to have to check out your statements prior to posting and provide cites for them to avoid inaccuracies. 

If the patio door being left unlocked hadn't been mentioned to the press according to you ... how do you think it was possible for the press to print exactly that information ???

"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: T9 And Security Of Holiday Apartments
« Reply #251 on: December 23, 2019, 10:13:31 PM »
Madeleine's parents 'left patio doors unlocked'

Last updated at 16:53 13 May 2007

Police in Portugal are working on the theory that Madeleine was snatched through patio doors left unlocked by her parents as they dined just 40 yards away.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-454466/Madeleines-parents-left-patio-doors-unlocked.html

You are really going to have to check out your statements prior to posting and provide cites for them to avoid inaccuracies. 

If the patio door being left unlocked hadn't been mentioned to the press according to you ... how do you think it was possible for the press to print exactly that information ???


Did  you see this Davel?
"You are really going to have to check out your statements prior to posting and provide cites for them to avoid inaccuracies. "

Well  if supporters are making claims without cites why can't I?

And how accurate is this:

Gerry and Kate McCann would have used the patio doors as they checked on their daughter and her twin siblings during their meal near the Mark Warner holiday complex swimming pool and it is these doors that were left unsecured.

The McCanns and all their friends on the holiday left their patio doors open throughout the evenings for fear of fire.

Mr Kirby told The Mail on Sunday: "I had a very interesting chat with the officer in charge. The window shutters are not an issue.

"Their mechanism makes them almost impossible to open. The door was left unlocked. They did that every night.

"I think the police have a very specific understanding of what they are looking for."



Is al this in the May 3rd statements as well?


Hmm
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: T9 And Security Of Holiday Apartments
« Reply #252 on: December 23, 2019, 10:14:25 PM »

Did  you see this Davel?
"You are really going to have to check out your statements prior to posting and provide cites for them to avoid inaccuracies. "

Well  if supporters are making claims without cites why can't I?

And how accurate is this:

Gerry and Kate McCann would have used the patio doors as they checked on their daughter and her twin siblings during their meal near the Mark Warner holiday complex swimming pool and it is these doors that were left unsecured.

The McCanns and all their friends on the holiday left their patio doors open throughout the evenings for fear of fire.

Mr Kirby told The Mail on Sunday: "I had a very interesting chat with the officer in charge. The window shutters are not an issue.

"Their mechanism makes them almost impossible to open. The door was left unlocked. They did that every night.

"I think the police have a very specific understanding of what they are looking for."



Is al this in the May 3rd statements as well?


Hmm
There are no May 3rd statements.
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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: T9 And Security Of Holiday Apartments
« Reply #253 on: December 23, 2019, 10:24:07 PM »
There are no May 3rd statements.

Madeleine vanished  on May 3, 2007.

Family were phoned by the parents and it was on the  news early morning UK time.

And the police did ask what happened.  =statements
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: T9 And Security Of Holiday Apartments
« Reply #254 on: December 23, 2019, 10:25:51 PM »
Madeleine vanished  on May 3, 2007.

Family were phoned by the parents and it was on the  news early morning UK time.

And the police did ask what happened.  =statements
There are no May 3rd statements.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".