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Offline Mr Gray

Re: When, where and how did witnesses learn of MM's disappearance?
« Reply #45 on: December 19, 2019, 07:44:00 PM »
Nope.  The ball is firmly in your court.   &^^&*

nope its in your court...you made the statement...I simply quoted you

Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: When, where and how did witnesses learn of MM's disappearance?
« Reply #46 on: December 19, 2019, 07:50:38 PM »
nope its in your court...you made the statement...I simply quoted you

I don't play your childish games.   ?{)(**
What's up, old man?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: When, where and how did witnesses learn of MM's disappearance?
« Reply #47 on: December 19, 2019, 07:56:40 PM »
I don't play your childish games.   ?{)(**

I think most of what you post consists of childish games....I quoted your post where you criticise the PJ and the investigation








Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: When, where and how did witnesses learn of MM's disappearance?
« Reply #48 on: December 19, 2019, 08:10:48 PM »
I think most of what you post consists of childish games....I quoted your post where you criticise the PJ and the investigation

So get on with it ... my Xmas pud will not cook itself.    *&^^&
What's up, old man?

Offline The General

Re: When, where and how did witnesses learn of MM's disappearance?
« Reply #49 on: December 19, 2019, 08:15:37 PM »

Is there any other way? MRE on a hexi stove sat in a wadi......
« Last Edit: December 19, 2019, 11:28:27 PM by Robittybob1 »
Subject Matter Expert - Hobos.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: When, where and how did witnesses learn of MM's disappearance?
« Reply #50 on: December 19, 2019, 08:19:45 PM »
Is there any other way? MRE on a hexi stove sat in a wadi......

as needs be....but to promote yourself as a decent cook as sil does...then says the recipe starts with  jar of cook in sauce is quite funny

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: When, where and how did witnesses learn of MM's disappearance?
« Reply #51 on: December 19, 2019, 08:23:18 PM »
Was the Duke of Holland part of the Ocean Club? The answer is no, it was in Praia da Luz. So which Mark Warner employee was so on the ball that she reached there before the missing child procedure began?

“No time for being vague, surely? I know there wasn't a timepiece between them (I mean, why would you, you're on holiday?), but they're all pretty adamant about the spacings of the 'checks'.”

Indeed there was no need for them to be vague, they were VERY adamant they checked the children every half hour, if this WAS the case, then there was no need for a timeline never mind two of them!

It would look something like this: left for Tapas at 8.00 =1st check would be 8.30 and so on.
There was a claim that none had watches or clocks or mobile phones. So how would they know if they checked every half hour as they claimed.

As it turns out Clarence was wrong- one did have a watch!

It was also claimed that they never agreed to or had checked on each other’s children that week EXCEPT the night MBM ‘disappeared’.

They claimed they only listened at the door, However, the McCann children were checked by  a few more people that particular evening, and had two physical checks by parents, who were alarmed by an alleged moving door!

“Discredited by whom, Ironside?”
Probably Sherlock or shergar?


“Was the Duke of Holland part of the Ocean Club? The answer is no, it was in Praia da Luz. So which Mark Warner employee was so on the ball that she reached there before the missing child procedure began?”

Interesting, how the timeline had to be changed to accommodate varying scenarios. About 10pm Kate raised the alarm? About could mean 10.15?
She went to her 10pm check and spent 10 minutes looking for her daughter and the paedo gang as if they would be hiding in the apartment- as according to her she ‘knew right away she was abducted’

Strange thing to do when you think about it?
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin

Offline barrier

Re: When, where and how did witnesses learn of MM's disappearance?
« Reply #52 on: December 19, 2019, 08:43:25 PM »
By authorities you mean the initial investigation which imo has been discredited.  The present investigation has expressed no such concern

Rowley no less, an assistant commissioner to the MET declares they are more than happy to not investigate the parents because this was done by the first investigation,far from being discredited its a ringing endorsement.
This is my own private domicile and I shall not be harassed, biatch:Jesse Pinkman Character.

Offline barrier

Re: When, where and how did witnesses learn of MM's disappearance?
« Reply #53 on: December 19, 2019, 08:46:15 PM »
- at around 10 p.m., when KATE went to the apartment she verified that MADELEINE had disappeared, and that the window and shutters of the bedroom were open.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/P_J_FINAL_REPORT.htm


Just because its written in the thrice translated non verbatim files and you shout it out doesn't make it so,its words after all.
This is my own private domicile and I shall not be harassed, biatch:Jesse Pinkman Character.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: When, where and how did witnesses learn of MM's disappearance?
« Reply #54 on: December 19, 2019, 08:49:40 PM »
Rowley no less, an assistant commissioner to the MET declares they are more than happy to not investigate the parents because this was done by the first investigation,far from being discredited its a ringing endorsement.

not really ...the first imvestigation investigated the parents but didnt bother investigating anything else

Offline barrier

Re: When, where and how did witnesses learn of MM's disappearance?
« Reply #55 on: December 19, 2019, 08:54:04 PM »
not really ...the first imvestigation investigated the parents but didnt bother investigating anything else

Yes really,its written and on video to be so,he said it and no translation errors.
This is my own private domicile and I shall not be harassed, biatch:Jesse Pinkman Character.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: When, where and how did witnesses learn of MM's disappearance?
« Reply #56 on: December 19, 2019, 08:57:02 PM »
Yes really,its written and on video to be so,he said it and no translation errors.
you havent given the full quote....something like..

the parents...taht was dealt with by the first investigation...WEVE LOOKED AT everything...


so Rowley said they looked at everything...they didnt just rely on the first investigation

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: When, where and how did witnesses learn of MM's disappearance?
« Reply #57 on: December 19, 2019, 09:05:41 PM »

Just because its written in the thrice translated non verbatim files and you shout it out doesn't make it so,its words after all.

Kate didn't verify- she claimed/ alleged they were open. Upon seeing this 'evidence' that an abductor/s climbed in and stole her daughter, with no thought to her own safety,she  searched the apartment for the child and paedo gang- No one else saw the whooshing curtains or open window and shutters OR paedo gang.

Once she had established that the gang with her daughter was no longer in the apartment, she left the twins and ran to tell the others, who then ran back to search the apartment again- well just in case the gang forgot something and had to back track... chit happens even to the most vile of preps
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin

Offline barrier

Re: When, where and how did witnesses learn of MM's disappearance?
« Reply #58 on: December 19, 2019, 09:10:13 PM »
Kate didn't verify- she claimed/ alleged they were open. Upon seeing this 'evidence' that an abductor/s climbed in and stole her daughter, with no thought to her own safety,she  searched the apartment for the child and paedo gang- No one else saw the whooshing curtains or open window and shutters OR paedo gang.

Once she had established that the gang with her daughter was no longer in the apartment, she left the twins and ran to tell the others, who then ran back to search the apartment again- well just in case the gang forgot something and had to back track... chit happens even to the most vile of preps

From the link provide by Brietta

The situation that concerns the window of the bedroom where MADELEINE slept, together with the twins, which was open, according to KATE.
This is my own private domicile and I shall not be harassed, biatch:Jesse Pinkman Character.

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: When, where and how did witnesses learn of MM's disappearance?
« Reply #59 on: December 19, 2019, 09:28:20 PM »
The authorities were not convinced by the timeline provided by the group, which is why they wanted a reconstitution. In my opinion the only reason they wrote what they did in their reports is because they had no evidence with which to contradict what they were told.

Hence why they were treated with much deserved, imo, suspicion.

It became clear to many people including the GNR AND PJ  that the tapas  group were NOT being completely honest about something, and that the' abductors' alleged entry was 'staged' to cover up behaviors. I suspect it was to protect them from a public and family/work back lash. A PR job.

Telling people that their daughter came to no harm is stunningly crass.
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin