Dr Totman: Apartment block stayed in and direction walked

[ShiningInLuz]

How can you know 'Tannerman' was going the wrong way unless of course you know where he was going? 

How does JT know 'Tannerman' was going the wrong way?

What evidence exists showing DCI Redwood got things wrong?

Tannerman was allegedly coming from the night crèche, so he was going the wrong way.

Jane Tanner knew it was the wrong way.  Ask her if you want more.

I watched Redwood and co dig up central Luz in June 2014.  God only knows what they thought they were doing.

[barrier]

grange was scaled back in 2015...

Operation Grange was scaled back in 2015, but the remaining detectives continued to pursue a small number of inquiries described in April 2017 as significant.

Meanwhile getting on towards 3 yrs later......................

[Holly Goodhead]

grange wa scaled back in 2015...

Operation Grange was scaled back in 2015, but the remaining detectives continued to pursue a small number of inquiries described in April 2017 as significant.

Yes I know but that's not the point under discussion.  Anthro (I think) was referring to 3 x Potuguese guys investigated in 2014.  They were not charged with any offence.  OG would not continue the investigation and drawing millions 2014 - 2019 if they had identified perp's but didn't have sufficient evidence to convict.

[barrier]

Tannerman was allegedly coming from the night crèche, so he was going the wrong way.

Jane Tanner knew it was the wrong way.  Ask her if you want more.

I watched Redwood and co dig up central Luz in June 2014.  God only knows what they thought they were doing.

Looking for loot from the 3 amigos, is it any where near the route if? Tannerman was going toward the creche?

[Mr Gray]

Yes I know but that's not the point under discussion.  Anthro (I think) was referring to 3 x Potuguese guys investigated in 2014.  They were not charged with any offence.  OG would not continue the investigation and drawing millions 2014 - 2019 if they had identified perp's but didn't have sufficient evidence to convict.

they scaled back in 2015...they are continuing with the investigation...thats all we know

[Holly Goodhead]

Tannerman was allegedly coming from the night crèche, so he was going the wrong way.

Jane Tanner knew it was the wrong way.  Ask her if you want more.

I watched Redwood and co dig up central Luz in June 2014.  God only knows what they thought they were doing.

You rightly corrected me in that DCI Redwood did not identify 'Tannerman' as Dr T.  Now it's my time to correct you in that DCI Redwood, nor anyone else in a professional capacity, has referred to 'Tannerman' as coming from anywhere let alone the crèche. 

One of the things that we picked up very quickly was the fact that there was a night crèche that was operating from the main Ocean Club reception – and  8 families had left 11 children in there – and one particular family we spoke to us gave us information that was really interesting and exciting. In fact, I would say it was – it was a revelation moment when, having discussed with them what hey were doing on the night, they themselves believed that they could be the Tanner sighting.

There's no mention of what the family were doing.  Which official has said otherwise. 

How on earth could JT know where 'Tannerman' was going when she didn't even know who he was? 

[Holly Goodhead]

they scaled back in 2015...they are continuing with the investigation...thats all we know

Yes but this has nothing to do with the exchange of posts between myself and Anthro.

MET carried out a scoping review 2011 - 2013.  So I would expect the investigation to be scaled back in 2015 having been at it for some 2 years with huge resources in terms of £'s and manpower. 

[barrier]

Yes but this has nothing to do with the exchange of posts between myself and Anthro.

MET carried out a scoping review 2011 - 2013.  So I would expect the investigation to be scaled back in 2015 having been at it for some 2 years with huge resources in terms of £'s and manpower.

In answer to a question in 2017 how long would it go on for Rowley said the MET part would not go on for as long as it had been going.2013 full blown investigation to 2017 was 4 yrs,so 2017 would make it ending next year after another 3 yrs,won't be long.

[Holly Goodhead]

Given DCI Redwood is on record as follows:

One of the things that we picked up very quickly was the fact that there was a night crèche that was operating from the main Ocean Club reception – and  8 families had left 11 children in there – and one particular family we spoke to us gave us information that was really interesting and exciting. In fact, I would say it was – it was a revelation moment when, having discussed with them what hey were doing on the night, they themselves believed that they could be the Tanner sighting.

DCI Redwood only makes reference 'to what the family were doing'.

Can someone tell me where the idea 'Tannerman' was coming from the crèche originates from? 

[Holly Goodhead]

In answer to a question in 2017 how long would it go on for Rowley said the MET part would not go on for as long as it had been going.2013 full blown investigation to 2017 was 4 yrs,so 2017 would make it ending next year after another 3 yrs,won't be long.

Which will coincide around the time MM is 18 yoa. 

[barrier]

Which will coincide around the time MM is 18 yoa.

That'll be 2021 then,about right I'd venture.

[Anthro]

Yes I know but that's not the point under discussion.  Anthro (I think) was referring to 3 x Potuguese guys investigated in 2014.  They were not charged with any offence.  OG would not continue the investigation and drawing millions 2014 - 2019 if they had identified perp's but didn't have sufficient evidence to convict.

Five years have passed since then and it was necessary at the time to eliminate the three people.

The investigation has moved along since that time. Heriberto’s full blog is no longer on social media. He has raised some thought-provoking issues.

[Angelo222]

Anthro said Heriberto discovered phone data.  He didn't discover it as such as it was in the file available placed in the public domain.

That's correct. Heriberto went to some trouble to interrogate the data already within the public domain. He is to be applauded for his efforts.

[Angelo222]

Sutton didn't say what you think.... His contact may well have been talking about lines of enquiry being blocked by portugal
Sutton made an assumption

from  a telegraph article...its the PJ telling grange where they can and cannot look

The Sun reports this line of enquiry may be that lead, but that police were privately frustrated with the Portuguese authorities’ refusal to let them follow up on it.

One told The Sun: “It has dogged the investigation all the way through and it's happening again.

Regardless of what Sutton implied, I know from my own enquiries that SY have conveniently overlooked certain criminality in the Maddie case.  One wonders why and who are they protecting? 

[Brietta]

That's correct. Heriberto went to some trouble to interrogate the data already within the public domain. He is to be applauded for his efforts.

I think he was the first outside police circles to do so.  Everyone else seems to have confined themselves to the sticking point of confining themselves to interrogating the McCann data only.

Heri also studied the calls to phone boxes in Praia da Luz ... he certainly did what others only claim to have done but actually did not and that is to have looked at the bigger picture.