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Offline Eleanor

Re: McCann's poignant 2019 Christmas message to supporters.
« Reply #120 on: January 02, 2020, 01:10:10 PM »
And who is to blame for that?

Moderators, not us mere mortals.

Sceptic Mods most likely.  And Sadie was fair game to them.

This was done in the days when Deletions didn't have to be Reported, so no one knew what was going on most of the time.

Offline Eleanor

Re: McCann's poignant 2019 Christmas message to supporters.
« Reply #121 on: January 02, 2020, 01:11:46 PM »
And eminent scientists have done a lot of research into the origins of mankind.

Looking for Madeleine were they?

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: McCann's poignant 2019 Christmas message to supporters.
« Reply #122 on: January 02, 2020, 01:14:12 PM »
If MM is found alive and well with her abductors when/how would the McCanns be notified and would they have any say over how MM and her abductor(s) are handled by the authorities?

MM will have little or no memory of her former life and if treated well by her abductor(s) would have formed a bond with them probably viewing them as her parents.  The McCanns would be strangers to MM.  If the media got wind of such a story it would be impossible for MM to live a 'normal' life until the intense media interest subsided. 

Inevitably MM would learn about the circumstances of her disappearance ie McCanns wining and dining whilst she and her two younger siblings were left 'home alone' in the unsecured apartment night after night. Would MM want to be reunited with her parents? 
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: McCann's poignant 2019 Christmas message to supporters.
« Reply #123 on: January 02, 2020, 01:15:40 PM »
Looking for Madeleine were they?

Why would eminent biologists and the like be on the look out for MM?

Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Eleanor

Re: McCann's poignant 2019 Christmas message to supporters.
« Reply #124 on: January 02, 2020, 01:19:32 PM »
If MM is found alive and well with her abductors when/how would the McCanns be notified and would they have any say over how MM and her abductor(s) are handled by the authorities?

MM will have little or no memory of her former life and if treated well by her abductor(s) would have formed a bond with them probably viewing them as her parents.  The McCanns would be strangers to MM.  If the media got wind of such a story it would be impossible for MM to live a 'normal' life until the intense media interest subsided. 

Inevitably MM would learn about the circumstances of her disappearance ie McCanns wining and dining whilst she and her two younger siblings were left 'home alone' in the unsecured apartment night after night. Would MM want to be reunited with her parents?

I suspect that Madeleine would have more trouble dealing with nasty comments like this that have grossly exaggerated what happened.

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: McCann's poignant 2019 Christmas message to supporters.
« Reply #125 on: January 02, 2020, 01:21:19 PM »
If MM is found alive and well with her abductors when/how would the McCanns be notified and would they have any say over how MM and her abductor(s) are handled by the authorities?

MM will have little or no memory of her former life and if treated well by her abductor(s) would have formed a bond with them probably viewing them as her parents.  The McCanns would be strangers to MM.  If the media got wind of such a story it would be impossible for MM to live a 'normal' life until the intense media interest subsided. 

Inevitably MM would learn about the circumstances of her disappearance ie McCanns wining and dining whilst she and her two younger siblings were left 'home alone' in the unsecured apartment night after night. Would MM want to be reunited with her parents?

I'm sure I recall reading in KM's PB that the McCanns relinquished some legal status over MM based on advice from their lawyer? 

As MM has not yet reached the age of majority in Portugal and England who has legal responsibility for her? 
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: McCann's poignant 2019 Christmas message to supporters.
« Reply #126 on: January 02, 2020, 01:22:12 PM »
I suspect that Madeleine would have more trouble dealing with nasty comments like this that have grossly exaggerated what happened.

What is nasty and what is grossly exaggerated? 
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline barrier

Re: McCann's poignant 2019 Christmas message to supporters.
« Reply #127 on: January 02, 2020, 01:23:37 PM »
I'm sure I recall reading in KM's PB that the McCanns relinquished some legal status over MM based on advice from their lawyer? 

As MM has not yet reached the age of majority in Portugal and England who has legal responsibility for her?

She was made ward of court,17 months time I'd venture it would no longer apply.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/madeleinemccann/2164743/Madeleine-McCann-parents-court-bid-for-information.html

The Telegraph can also disclose that Madeleine was made a ward of court last summer at the request of the McCanns, to empower judges to act in her best interests in any legal dispute such as the case which is about to be heard.

Clarence Mitchell, the McCanns’ spokesman, said: “I can state that on the instigation of Gerry and Kate McCann Madeleine is a ward of the High Court of England and Wales.
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Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: McCann's poignant 2019 Christmas message to supporters.
« Reply #128 on: January 02, 2020, 01:24:45 PM »
The McCanns probably see MM as their little girl just about to turn 4 yoa and yet in a few weeks time MM will be 17 yoa and a year off the age of majority.
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline jassi

Re: McCann's poignant 2019 Christmas message to supporters.
« Reply #129 on: January 02, 2020, 01:26:50 PM »
I'm sure I recall reading in KM's PB that the McCanns relinquished some legal status over MM based on advice from their lawyer? 

As MM has not yet reached the age of majority in Portugal and England who has legal responsibility for her?

 She is likely to still be a Ward of Court of the British legal system, but the Family Court is not renowned  for its transparency, so we don't know for certainty
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

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Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: McCann's poignant 2019 Christmas message to supporters.
« Reply #130 on: January 02, 2020, 01:29:13 PM »
She was made ward of court,17 months time I'd venture it would no longer apply.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/madeleinemccann/2164743/Madeleine-McCann-parents-court-bid-for-information.html

The Telegraph can also disclose that Madeleine was made a ward of court last summer at the request of the McCanns, to empower judges to act in her best interests in any legal dispute such as the case which is about to be heard.

Clarence Mitchell, the McCanns’ spokesman, said: “I can state that on the instigation of Gerry and Kate McCann Madeleine is a ward of the High Court of England and Wales.


Thanks Barrier I thought it was something like that. 

So on this basis if MM is found I guess the High Court would decide how best to proceed based on MM's best interests. 
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: McCann's poignant 2019 Christmas message to supporters.
« Reply #131 on: January 02, 2020, 01:32:17 PM »
Thanks Barrier I thought it was something like that. 

So on this basis if MM is found I guess the High Court would decide how best to proceed based on MM's best interests.

But as you said in 16/17 months time this is unlikely to apply as MM will have reached the age of majority unless of course she is deemed vulnerable due to some mental/physical disability etc.
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline jassi

Re: McCann's poignant 2019 Christmas message to supporters.
« Reply #132 on: January 02, 2020, 01:37:15 PM »
All a bit hypothetical at the moment as there is nothing to suggest she is going to made an appearance in the near future.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline barrier

Re: McCann's poignant 2019 Christmas message to supporters.
« Reply #133 on: January 02, 2020, 01:40:26 PM »
I'm sure its been covered before but...


This page explains the situation where the High Court can become a legal guardian for a child under the power of Wardship.

https://childlawadvice.org.uk/information-pages/wardship/
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Offline Brietta

Re: McCann's poignant 2019 Christmas message to supporters.
« Reply #134 on: January 02, 2020, 01:46:52 PM »
If MM is found alive and well with her abductors when/how would the McCanns be notified and would they have any say over how MM and her abductor(s) are handled by the authorities?

MM will have little or no memory of her former life and if treated well by her abductor(s) would have formed a bond with them probably viewing them as her parents.  The McCanns would be strangers to MM.  If the media got wind of such a story it would be impossible for MM to live a 'normal' life until the intense media interest subsided. 

Inevitably MM would learn about the circumstances of her disappearance ie McCanns wining and dining whilst she and her two younger siblings were left 'home alone' in the unsecured apartment night after night. Would MM want to be reunited with her parents?

Anthro has posted about the traumatic case of Zephany Nurse who was kidnapped as an infant; there are also recent American examples and the children of the disappeared in Argentina.

Whatever the circumstances of a child being stolen it is almost never an easy transition back to what should be normal life for anyone involved.

To celebrate the added difficulties which Madeleine may experience if found alive as a result of a best selling book which decreed her dead and the hateful and continuing hate campaign which followed hard on its heels is disingenuous to say the least as her very survival would prove that all of that was wrong.

I think that anyone who participated in that campaign in any sort of way should be hanging their heads in black burning shame not crowing about further harm being done to a young woman whose life was stolen from her.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....