McCann's poignant 2019 Christmas message to supporters.

[G-Unit]

You don’t need to explain, it’s pretty obvious what your views are.   Abduction virtually impossible, woke and wandered possible, parental involvement highly likely.  I fully expect you to take issue with this, though god knows why you would.

I can't work out why you need to know what other people think. I don't know or care what others think. In my opinion there's not enough evidence to be sure what happened on 3rd May 2007. That was the view of both Pedro do Carmo and A C Rowley in 2017, and nothing has been said since.

So as of 2017 the PJ weren't convinced that Madeleine had been abducted, but Rowley was. Hardly surprising really as the crime was named in Operation Grange's remit. Judging by the evidence of Simon Foy and Andy Redwood that seems to have been based on the timeline. Op Grange appear to have been convinced that the timeline as reported was correct.

In my opinion the timeline is the most important evidence in the case, and I agree with Rebelo; it was never confirmed. No-one really knows who was there, who left, how long they were away or exactly what time the alarm was raised. The evidence isn't conclusive.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I can't work out why you need to know what other people think. I don't know or care what others think. In my opinion there's not enough evidence to be sure what happened on 3rd May 2007. That was the view of both Pedro do Carmo and A C Rowley in 2017, and nothing has been said since.

So as of 2017 the PJ weren't convinced that Madeleine had been abducted, but Rowley was. Hardly surprising really as the crime was named in Operation Grange's remit. Judging by the evidence of Simon Foy and Andy Redwood that seems to have been based on the timeline. Op Grange appear to have been convinced that the timeline as reported was correct.

In my opinion the timeline is the most important evidence in the case, and I agree with Rebelo; it was never confirmed. No-one really knows who was there, who left, how long they were away or exactly what time the alarm was raised. The evidence isn't conclusive.

I don’t NEED to know but when communicating with others I don’t obfuscste, speak in riddles or pretend not to have opinions, and I don’t think it’s unreasonable for me to expect that those I communicate with do me the same courtesy.

[G-Unit]

I don’t NEED to know but when communicating with others I don’t obfuscste, speak in riddles or pretend not to have opinions, and I don’t think it’s unreasonable for those I communicate with to do me the same courtesy.

Some people have firm opinions and some don't. I don't and have made that clear time and again. Why people can't accept that and why they insist that I do have firm opinions is a mystery to me.

I don't obfuscate, speak in riddles or pretend at all, and I find it most discourteous to be accused of doing so.

[Mr Gray]

Some people have firm opinions and some don't. I don't and have made that clear time and again. Why people can't accept that and why they insist that I do have firm opinions is a mystery to me.

I don't obfuscate, speak in riddles or pretend at all, and I find it most discourteous to be accused of doing so.

You di have firm opinions... Your opinion is the mccanns have not been ruled out despite all the evidence they have been

[barrier]

New year, same old.

[Mr Gray]

New year, same old.

I agree.. Some posters are stuck in 2007...but the investigation has moved on

[barrier]

I agree.. Some posters are stuck in 2007...but the investigation has moved on

2017 is where its at,the PJ don't accept the abduction as the only option,SY on the other hand?

[Mr Gray]

2017 is where its at,the PJ don't accept the abduction as the only option,SY on the other hand?

But they have said parents not suspects and no evidence against them...

[barrier]

But they have said parents not suspects and no evidence against them...

I don't recall mentioning that,like I say same old.

[G-Unit]

You di have firm opinions... Your opinion is the mccanns have not been ruled out despite all the evidence they have been

I accept that Op Grange are not investigating the McCanns. I don't accept that they have sufficient evidence to support that decision. I certainly don't accept Rowley's claim that the PJ were in possession of that evidence in 2007.

[Brietta]

2017 is where its at,the PJ don't accept the abduction as the only option,SY on the other hand?

                2017 ????       I thought the bells rang in 2020

Pedro do Carmo: "Maddie's parents are not suspects. Period."

[Mr Gray]

I accept that Op Grange are not investigating the McCanns. I don't accept that they have sufficient evidence to support that decision. I certainly don't accept Rowley's claim that the PJ were in possession of that evidence in 2007.

You have no idea what evidence SY have... Your opinion doesn't count for much in the real world.
Do Carmo also clearly stated.. No evidence... No suspects Re the mccanns...

[G-Unit]

You have no idea what evidence SY have... Your opinion doesn't count for much in the real world.
Do Carmo also clearly stated.. No evidence... No suspects Re the mccanns...

Rowley never claimed to have evidence which ruled the parents out. He claimed the first investigation dealt with the question of their involvement. It didn't.

[Mr Gray]

Rowley never claimed to have evidence which ruled the parents out. He claimed the first investigation dealt with the question of their involvement. It didn't.

He said they had looked at all of that... Meaning. Imo.. They had looked, at the evidence.  I would also think they had further interviewed the mccanns.  The absence of evidence IS in some instances evidence of innocence... That's not opinion.

The police often say... No evidence if foul play..on that basis they accept there is no foul play.

[barrier]

                2017 ????       I thought the bells rang in 2020

Pedro do Carmo: "Maddie's parents are not suspects. Period."

I'm sure you'll give us the update for 2020 then,2017 was the last we heard of what direction the investigation's were at.Pedro Do Carmo,we don't know what happened and have to be prepared for different scenario's.Rowley ,however she left the apartment she was abducted,one is of a closed mind ,never the twain shall meet,imo and all that jazz.