White House Farm - ITV Drama Series - Part 3

[Holly Goodhead]

Ann Eaton noticed the words "I HATE THIS PLACE" scraped into the front surface of a cupboard in the twins' bedroom.  When Colin Caffell visited WHF at Ann's invitation, he thought that Sheila might have been responsible for them, but not in the period just before the murders.

The ITV version showed Ann disturbed by the words which were located on a wall within the cupboard, not on the outside. I used to have a photo of the actual cupboard and words, but can't locate it now. So a computer-drawn version of them will have to suffice...

Forensic scientists would probably have been in a position to say how old the scratches were.  What did they have to say about the matter?

[adam]

'The White House Farm Murders' with Dianne Keen looks good. It says it was 6 episodes. So may go into some depth.

[John]

Well I might have been persuaded JB dunnit if the producers of the current ITV series showed JB cycling up to WHF donning his wetsuit and entering the farmhouse under stealth!

I don't believe he cycled there but took the car up the back lane and walked the rest. After all, there was blood found under the front passenger seat, I wonder was it ever tested or DNA sampled more recently?

[John]

According to Trudi Benjamin today the ITV drama should be called WhiteHouseFarce

Trudi Benjamin
@tru68
2h
Don’t believe all you see in ITV drama #WhiteHouseFarm - Should have called it #WhiteHouseFarce

She also states

Trudi Benjamin
@tru68
2h
Facts not Fiction #WhiteHouseFarm

Am guessing Bamber’s having a hard time in gaol and taking it out on the CT members?

Poppy Ann Miller™
@PoppyMeze
7h
Viewers can't 'decide' on guilt based on the invented depravity in this barrel-bottom scraping piece of television junk. Created #JeremyBamber 'in my imagination'? What happened to integrity & truth? Read the evidence!  #thiscouldhappentoyou

‘Integrity and truth’ aren’t words associated with Jeremy Bamber

I think Trudi Benjamin is the biggest joke.  Would you agree?

[John]

There's no evidence whatsoever JB committed any crime when travelling Antipodes.  And NB and June providing some financial support was no different to what is today known as the 'bank of mum and dad'.

I believe Brett Collins could tell you differently.

[barrier]

There's no evidence whatsoever JB committed any crime when travelling Antipodes.  And NB and June providing some financial support was no different to what is today known as the 'bank of mum and dad'.

Didn't ask of any criminal activity did I.

[Nicholas]

I think Trudi Benjamin is the biggest joke.  Would you agree?

I would!

She knows Bamber’s campaign is a farce and she’s one of the key players of the farce

She has a law degree now apparently so there are no excuses for the way she chooses to behave.

She knows how the criminal justice system works. She knows a criminal trial is about guilt and non guilt and she knows the Court of Appeal aren’t interested in innocence or guilt.

Her, and the CT’s, attempts at manipulating the case papers and presenting them in the way they have is foolish and no different to what her ‘hero’ and convicted fraudster Mike Tesco have done before her.

Trudi, Michelle Diskin Bates, they are all a ‘joke’ and a bunch of hypocrites! They see nothing wrong doing something like this https://www.thesun.co.uk/archives/news/278106/mass-murderer-jeremy-bamber-has-bizarre-mothers-day-rant-read-at-grave-of-parents-he-killed-30-years-ago/ then slag off a TV drama which is only half way through.

Mark Newby stated there would be no further comments pending the JR; that didn’t last long did it!?

And let’s not forget Trudi Benjamin chose to put herself and Jeremy Bamber ‘front and centre’ as she called it not long after Simon Halls guilt was exposed!

”Ms Benjamin, 47, defended the video, saying: “We were sensitive to the fact we were at a graveside. We decided it was a way to put him front and centre.”

She didn’t know Bamber prior to him going to prison, she wasn’t at his trial, she’s a very very foolish women!

She should have demanded Bamber have a brain scan before getting involved with him!

🎀 Michelle Diskin Bates 🎀
@Michelle_Diskin
5h
Very important...did you or yours provide information in the past? We need to hear from you again please. https://twitter.com/bambertweets/status/1220690484676395008
https://mobile.twitter.com/Michelle_Diskin/status/1220690961858166784

They are showing nothing but desperation

Didn’t Michelle Diskin Bates warn Trudi Benjamin of David Jessel’s comments following the justice gap article on Simon Halls confession, her comment was made under his

‘you always have to reserve a part of your brain for the possibility that the person you campaign for just might be guilty.

https://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/simon-hall-confession-a-time-to-take-stock-by-professor-julie-price-originally-published-by-jon-robins-of-the-justice-gap/

Apparently they are ‘friends’ some friend 

[puglove]

I think Trudi Benjamin is the biggest joke.  Would you agree?

She's a disgrace. And her chocolate cake looks like cows' doings.

[Nicholas]

I would!

She knows Bamber’s campaign is a farce and she’s one of the key players of the farce

She has a law degree now apparently so there are no excuses for the way she chooses to behave.

She knows how the criminal justice system works. She knows a criminal trial is about guilt and non guilt and she knows the Court of Appeal aren’t interested in innocence or guilt.

Her, and the CT’s, attempts at manipulating the case papers and presenting them in the way they have is foolish and no different to what her ‘hero’ and convicted fraudster Mike Tesco have done before her.

Trudi, Michelle Diskin Bates, they are all a ‘joke’ and a bunch of hypocrites! They see nothing wrong doing something like this https://www.thesun.co.uk/archives/news/278106/mass-murderer-jeremy-bamber-has-bizarre-mothers-day-rant-read-at-grave-of-parents-he-killed-30-years-ago/ then slag off a TV drama which is only half way through.

Mark Newby stated there would be no further comments pending the JR; that didn’t last long did it!?

And let’s not forget Trudi Benjamin chose to put herself and Jeremy Bamber ‘front and centre’ as she called it not long after Simon Halls guilt was exposed!

”Ms Benjamin, 47, defended the video, saying: “We were sensitive to the fact we were at a graveside. We decided it was a way to put him front and centre.”

She didn’t know Bamber prior to him going to prison, she wasn’t at his trial, she’s a very very foolish women!

She should have demanded Bamber have a brain scan before getting involved with him!

🎀 Michelle Diskin Bates 🎀
@Michelle_Diskin
5h
Very important...did you or yours provide information in the past? We need to hear from you again please. https://twitter.com/bambertweets/status/1220690484676395008
https://mobile.twitter.com/Michelle_Diskin/status/1220690961858166784

They are showing nothing but desperation

Didn’t Michelle Diskin Bates warn Trudi Benjamin of David Jessel’s comments following the justice gap article on Simon Halls confession, her comment was made under his

‘you always have to reserve a part of your brain for the possibility that the person you campaign for just might be guilty.

https://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/simon-hall-confession-a-time-to-take-stock-by-professor-julie-price-originally-published-by-jon-robins-of-the-justice-gap/

Apparently they are ‘friends’ some friend 

Simon Halls case review manager at the CCRC John Curtis wrote the following, which took place on 21 November 2014 marking the 40th anniversary of the Birmingham Pub Bombings.

Mark Newby was also in attendance

Excerpts:

Righting wrongs
“Too many cases, too few resources and no room for complacency – John Curtis reports on the Criminal Cases Review Commission state of play”

“The afternoon gave a more critical perspective with solicitor Mark Newby urging the CCRC to undertake more proactive reviews, to challenge the Police and to search for evidence rather than to accept assurances that it had been lost or had never existed.

Newby’s concerns on reviews were echoed by Professor Carolyn Hoyle of Oxford University. Professor Hoyle is leading an externally funded research project covering the Commission’s investigative and decision-making processes. The CCRC has facilitated access to its archives and open interviews with personnel. Hoyle’s initial findings suggest some differences between the CCRC’s investigators. Some appear to be more prepared to go “beyond the bundle” than others, to ask questions, or to conduct crime scene visits, or to speak with those connected with the case be they experts, representatives or police officers.

In panel discussions, the Commission responded with contributions from staff explaining that investigations and interviews were determined by evidential value and that references are made whenever the statutory test is met. The Commission also commended the pro bono work done by professionals, law clinics and university projects in assisting applicants to assemble information and to highlight lines of inquiry.

The Commission’s contribution to society is important. Miscarriages of justice remain a reality, as are the challenges to the organisation charged with their investigation. The CCRC Chairman’s concluding words provide an apt statement of aspiration: “We can’t know whether a particular person is telling the truth or not. We do not know whether they committed the crime they are accused of or not.” But, he said, people are entitled to be taken seriously when they approach the CCRC claiming to have been the victim of a miscarriage of justice. “Detailed, thorough, impartial investigation may confirm what they are saying – or it may tell us otherwise. But the possibility that what they are saying may indeed be the truth must always, always be our starting point. How different might the case of the Birmingham Six have been had it been approached from the beginning in that spirit?”
https://www.counselmagazine.co.uk/articles/righting-wrongs

Not a word about ’innocence fraud’

Nothing by John Curtis of having been conned for all those years. Not a single mention of what went wrong, how, why and where?!

Only Richard Fosters parting words of,

‘people are entitled to be taken seriously when they approach the CCRC claiming to have been the victim of a miscarriage of justice. “Detailed, thorough, impartial investigation may confirm what they are saying – or it may tell us otherwise’

Why aren’t the CCRC demanding chancers like Bamber, Robin Garbutt etc take a brain scan before being considered for yet another case review?

“Miscarriages of justice remain a reality’ as does ‘innocent fraud’!

[Nicholas]

Didn’t Michelle Diskin Bates warn Trudi Benjamin of David Jessel’s comments following the justice gap article on Simon Halls confession, her comment was made under his

‘you always have to reserve a part of your brain for the possibility that the person you campaign for just might be guilty.

https://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/simon-hall-confession-a-time-to-take-stock-by-professor-julie-price-originally-published-by-jon-robins-of-the-justice-gap/

Apparently they are ‘friends’ some friend 

This women is the biggest hypocrite - with a capital F

🎀 Michelle Diskin Bates 🎀
@Michelle_Diskin
5h
Sense at last! Thank you ☺️
Jeremy Bamber claims ‘ultimate alibi’ PROVES he didn’t massacre his family in White House Farm murders – The Sun
https://mobile.twitter.com/Michelle_Diskin/status/1220688020866764800

Look through her tweets to see what she said about the sun re Hillsborough

Didn’t Michelle Diskin Bates warn Trudi Benjamin of David Jessel’s comments following the justice gap article on Simon Halls confession, her comment was made under his

‘you always have to reserve a part of your brain for the possibility that the person you campaign for just might be guilty.

https://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/simon-hall-confession-a-time-to-take-stock-by-professor-julie-price-originally-published-by-jon-robins-of-the-justice-gap/

Apparently they are ‘friends’ some friend 

Michelle Diskin Bates 🎀 Retweeted
Jeremy Bamber
@JBamberFacebook
In the news today Essex police officers are jailed for forging documents and for dishonesty. The names of the corrupt officers in #JeremyBamber case are known and they will be held accountable for their actions.
 (link: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-48228167) bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan…
@jbcampaignltd
@Bambertweets
'Lazy' child abuse detectives jailed
Sharon Patterson and Lee Pollard ditched work and faked forms while carrying out investigations.
bbc.co.uk
5:07 PM · May 10, 2019 · Twitter for Android

Where’s the proof of police corruption and don’t Bamber’s murder conviction require overturning before making these false allegations?

What integrity does she think she brings to Bamber’s campaign?

Leigh Chambers asks: ‘Michelle, Peter there talking about police corruption
You’ve never said in your book that it was corruption that ended with Barry’s conviction
Why, why do you think Barry was the target?
Michelle Diskin Bates replies: “I couldn’t say it was corruption because I had no proof of that and I didn’t want my book to not have integrity I wanted people to be able to trust what I was writing

[mrswah]

I believe Brett Collins could tell you differently.

Ah, but would he?

[Eleanor]

I feel his pain... https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/302870901861

Own the dogs that I have and then tell me what should be done.

[Myster]

Own the dogs that I have and then tell me what should be done.

What the hell are you on about?!!!  READ MY POST WHICH WAS IN RESPONSE TO CAROLINE'S ABOUT A TV KANGAROO, BEFORE COMMENTING

No need to talk to me about the trials and tribulations of owning dogs either, I've been there and done that!

[Myster]

Ah, but would he?

Doubt it, but he'd sell you a car of your choice... illegally.

[Holly Goodhead]

I don't believe he cycled there but took the car up the back lane and walked the rest. After all, there was blood found under the front passenger seat, I wonder was it ever tested or DNA sampled more recently?

John Hayward, the biologist, did test it and said it was unlikely to have had any evidential value.

When the PJ wrote to former MW guests of 5A about any loss of blood they were told a young girl scraped her knee which bled and a man cut his face shaving.  The fact tiny blood stains were found on NB's car seat I don't find unusual especially given he was a farmer.