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Offline faithlilly

Re: Is The Tory Party Institutionally Racist....
« Reply #345 on: May 01, 2020, 12:45:20 PM »
I think it's because she says so many stupid things... And drinks from a can on the tube.

I certainly don't believe it's because she is black

Of course it’s not !

Are you condoning her treatment?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is The Tory Party Institutionally Racist....
« Reply #346 on: May 01, 2020, 01:38:15 PM »
Of course it’s not !

Are you condoning her treatment?

Shes a politician...was shadow home secretary.......and obvioulsy not fit for the job. The criticism she gets goes with her position...so yes... I think its to be expected
« Last Edit: May 01, 2020, 03:10:30 PM by Davel »

Offline faithlilly

Re: Is The Tory Party Institutionally Racist....
« Reply #347 on: May 01, 2020, 04:44:04 PM »
Shes a politician...was shadow home secretary.......and obvioulsy not fit for the job. The criticism she gets goes with her position...so yes... I think its to be expected

So you think that it’s acceptable for a woman to be threatened with rape, her looks to be criticised and be racially abused just because ‘she’s a politician’ ?

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/sep/05/diane-abbott-more-abused-than-any-other-mps-during-election
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Is The Tory Party Institutionally Racist....
« Reply #348 on: May 01, 2020, 04:53:21 PM »
So it’s not ok to criticise the looks of Dianne Abbott but it IS OK to criticise the looks of Kate McCann and be generally abusive about her, her house and her family, and that’s because...?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is The Tory Party Institutionally Racist....
« Reply #349 on: May 01, 2020, 05:14:07 PM »
So you think that it’s acceptable for a woman to be threatened with rape, her looks to be criticised and be racially abused just because ‘she’s a politician’ ?

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/sep/05/diane-abbott-more-abused-than-any-other-mps-during-election

Absolutely not and that isn't what I've said.... But of course as VS points out it seems its OK to be abusive towards the McCanns. Those who make those sort of threats against DA are as stupid and pathetic as those who abuse the McCanns

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Is The Tory Party Institutionally Racist....
« Reply #350 on: May 01, 2020, 05:21:23 PM »
Absolutely not and that isn't what I've said.... But of course as VS points out it seems its OK to be abusive towards the McCanns. Those who make those sort of threats against DA are as stupid and pathetic as those who abuse the McCanns
Faithlilly will no doubt claim she has never made any bitchy personal comments about Kate McCann, but before she does it would be a good idea if she consulted her conscience before making such a claim...
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline faithlilly

Re: Is The Tory Party Institutionally Racist....
« Reply #351 on: May 01, 2020, 05:26:08 PM »
Absolutely not and that isn't what I've said.... But of course as VS points out it seems its OK to be abusive towards the McCanns. Those who make those sort of threats against DA are as stupid and pathetic as those who abuse the McCanns

So how much abuse is too much ?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is The Tory Party Institutionally Racist....
« Reply #352 on: May 01, 2020, 05:26:26 PM »
I've actually got a lot of sympathy for DA as a person.... But not as a politician...

Offline faithlilly

Re: Is The Tory Party Institutionally Racist....
« Reply #353 on: May 01, 2020, 05:34:31 PM »
I've actually got a lot of sympathy for DA as a person.... But not as a politician...

Yet you still believe that she deserves the racist, misogynistic abuse she gets ‘because she’s a politician’ ?

‘
Shes a politician...was shadow home secretary.......and obvioulsy not fit for the job. The criticism she gets goes with her position...so yes... I think its to be expected’
« Last Edit: May 01, 2020, 05:37:28 PM by Faithlilly »
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is The Tory Party Institutionally Racist....
« Reply #354 on: May 01, 2020, 06:35:12 PM »
Yet you still believe that she deserves the racist, misogynistic abuse she gets ‘because she’s a politician’ ?

‘
Shes a politician...was shadow home secretary.......and obvioulsy not fit for the job. The criticism she gets goes with her position...so yes... I think its to be expected’

Im surprised you have made such a pigs ear of reading my post.....I sad the criticism she gets....never mentioned racism or misogony which im sure you should be aware of....I dont agree with

Offline faithlilly

Re: Is The Tory Party Institutionally Racist....
« Reply #355 on: May 01, 2020, 06:59:29 PM »
Im surprised you have made such a pigs ear of reading my post.....I sad the criticism she gets....never mentioned racism or misogony which im sure you should be aware of....I dont agree with

Most of the criticism she gets is racially motivated...evidenced by examples of that criticism’ ( read abuse). You, wrongly, denied the abuse was racially motivated. You are wrong.

When you’re in a hole...stop digging Davel.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is The Tory Party Institutionally Racist....
« Reply #356 on: May 01, 2020, 07:17:20 PM »
Most of the criticism she gets is racially motivated...evidenced by examples of that criticism’ ( read abuse). You, wrongly, denied the abuse was racially motivated. You are wrong.

When you’re in a hole...stop digging Davel.

Im not wrong at all...she may get some racist abuse and I certainly wouldnt condone that but the main reason she is criticised is because she makes such a fool of herself. Only today we read she is being criticised by Starmer himself for taking part in a debate with acouple of anti semitic Labour party members

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Is The Tory Party Institutionally Racist....
« Reply #357 on: May 01, 2020, 08:08:41 PM »
Im surprised you have made such a pigs ear of reading my post.....I sad the criticism she gets....never mentioned racism or misogony which im sure you should be aware of....I dont agree with
I’m not surprised at all, this is the modus operandi of a dishonest debater, deliberately misunderstanding what you’ve written.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is The Tory Party Institutionally Racist....
« Reply #358 on: May 01, 2020, 08:24:58 PM »
I’m not surprised at all, this is the modus operandi of a dishonest debater, deliberately misunderstanding what you’ve written.

I'm sure...and I'm not joking ...Diane is  a very nice well meaning person with a good heart. The fault lies with the idiot who made her shadow foreign secretary....her ex boyfriend as I understand

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Is The Tory Party Institutionally Racist....
« Reply #359 on: May 01, 2020, 09:50:34 PM »
I'm sure...and I'm not joking ...Diane is  a very nice well meaning person with a good heart. The fault lies with the idiot who made her shadow foreign secretary....her ex boyfriend as I understand
I have no idea if she’s a nice person or not, I just think she’s one of those socialists that doesn’t practice what they preach, like most of them in fact.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".