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Offline faithlilly

Re: Is The Tory Party Institutionally Racist....
« Reply #360 on: May 02, 2020, 12:09:30 AM »
Im not wrong at all...she may get some racist abuse and I certainly wouldnt condone that but the main reason she is criticised is because she makes such a fool of herself. Only today we read she is being criticised by Starmer himself for taking part in a debate with acouple of anti semitic Labour party members

Then if that’s true let’s hear your criticism of Johnson whose actions singlehandedly lead to the further detention  of a British National in Iran ?

And who commented about police probes into historical child abuse allegations where he said money spent on the investigations had been “spaffed up the wall” and would have been better used putting officers on the street ?

Or commented on Libya “They have got a brilliant vision to turn Sirte into the next Dubai. The only thing they have got to do is clear the dead bodies away.”


Or who berated at a Sikh temple in Bristol for talking about increasing whisky exports to India – despite alcohol being forbidden in the Sikh faith.


And of course there’s the classic ‘smoked kipper’ episode where he ranted about EU regulations making fish more expensive as it had to be transported on ice. Of course that turned out to be a UK regulation.


And if Abbott wanted to talk to an [ censored word]emite she need look no further than the PM himself.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/dec/11/boris-johnsons-record-of-bigotry-[ censored word]emitism-and-far-right-politics-must-not-be-forgotten


As to the university educated MP being stupid, you really shouldn’t believe the hype.I found this interesting especially the quote from the Telegraph :

Abbott was later appointed Shadow Minister for Public Health by Ed Miliband, taking shadow responsibility for a range of issues including children's health, maternity services, sexual health, tobacco, nursing, obesity and alcohol abuse.[27] Following her move onto the front-bench, the Telegraph said on 27 September 2011 that Abbott had "become one of Labour’s best front bench performers".[28]

Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline faithlilly

Re: Is The Tory Party Institutionally Racist....
« Reply #361 on: May 02, 2020, 12:14:43 AM »
I'm sure...and I'm not joking ...Diane is  a very nice well meaning person with a good heart. The fault lies with the idiot who made her shadow foreign secretary....her ex boyfriend as I understand

And Ed Miliband who made her Shadow Minister for Public Health ? Or the Telegraph who described her as ‘ one of Labour’s best front bench performers“ ?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is The Tory Party Institutionally Racist....
« Reply #362 on: May 02, 2020, 09:49:13 AM »
And Ed Miliband who made her Shadow Minister for Public Health ? Or the Telegraph who described her as ‘ one of Labour’s best front bench performers“ ?

I think you will find that was 9 years ago and doesnt say a lot for the rest of the front bench. Are you really suggesting that much of the criticism she has received has not been due to some of the confused things she has said and her own actions...such as drinking alcohol from a can on the tube.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Is The Tory Party Institutionally Racist....
« Reply #363 on: May 02, 2020, 11:18:42 AM »
I think you will find that was 9 years ago and doesnt say a lot for the rest of the front bench. Are you really suggesting that much of the criticism she has received has not been due to some of the confused things she has said and her own actions...such as drinking alcohol from a can on the tube.
I wonder if word for word she has received more or less hateful online abuse in the last 13 years than, say, Kate McCann?  It would be an interesting study. 
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline faithlilly

Re: Is The Tory Party Institutionally Racist....
« Reply #364 on: May 02, 2020, 11:36:40 AM »
I think you will find that was 9 years ago and doesnt say a lot for the rest of the front bench. Are you really suggesting that much of the criticism she has received has not been due to some of the confused things she has said and her own actions...such as drinking alcohol from a can on the tube.

What deserves more criticism ? Drinking alcohol on the tube but harming no one or leaving your three under fives alone to drink alcohol into the small hours ?  I know which one I’d choose.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is The Tory Party Institutionally Racist....
« Reply #365 on: May 02, 2020, 11:47:58 AM »
What deserves more criticism ? Drinking alcohol on the tube but harming no one or leaving your three under fives alone to drink alcohol into the small hours ?  I know which one I’d choose.

thats confirmation youve lost the argument

Offline faithlilly

Re: Is The Tory Party Institutionally Racist....
« Reply #366 on: May 02, 2020, 12:40:55 PM »
thats confirmation youve lost the argument

No it confirms that you are displaying a double standard.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is The Tory Party Institutionally Racist....
« Reply #367 on: May 02, 2020, 12:50:01 PM »
No it confirms that you are displaying a double standard.

For the record i think the McCanns were wrong to leave the children and its understandable for people to be critical but not abusive towards them...thats life

Offline faithlilly

Re: Is The Tory Party Institutionally Racist....
« Reply #368 on: May 02, 2020, 01:20:54 PM »
For the record i think the McCanns were wrong to leave the children and its understandable for people to be critical but not abusive towards them...thats life

Agreed and any politician who is not up to the job deserves to be criticised for that deficiency, as I did Johnson above,  but no politician deserves the kind of racist, misogynistic abuse Diane Abbott receives.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is The Tory Party Institutionally Racist....
« Reply #369 on: May 02, 2020, 01:27:43 PM »
Agreed and any politician who is not up to the job deserves to be criticised for that deficiency, as I did Johnson above,  but no politician deserves the kind of racist, misogynistic abuse Diane Abbott receives.

I agree.. I had a bit of that on Stephens forum which several posters here seemed to enjoy... Thanks for highlighting what a despicable act that was
« Last Edit: May 02, 2020, 01:30:00 PM by Davel »

Offline John

Re: Is The Tory Party Institutionally Racist....
« Reply #370 on: May 02, 2020, 01:30:35 PM »
Agreed and any politician who is not up to the job deserves to be criticised for that deficiency, as I did Johnson above,  but no politician deserves the kind of racist, misogynistic abuse Diane Abbott receives.

No I agree, she's just a racist with an inferiority complex and a big chip on her shoulder.  She espouses what's worst about London these days.
« Last Edit: May 02, 2020, 01:34:31 PM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Is The Tory Party Institutionally Racist....
« Reply #371 on: May 02, 2020, 01:38:29 PM »
Is it OK to abuse Trump on the basis of the way he looks and the way he speaks?  Just curious...
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline faithlilly

Re: Is The Tory Party Institutionally Racist....
« Reply #372 on: May 02, 2020, 01:40:57 PM »
I agree.. I had a bit of that on Stephens forum which several posters here seemed to enjoy... Thanks for highlighting what a despicable act that was

You will get no argument from me.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline faithlilly

Re: Is The Tory Party Institutionally Racist....
« Reply #373 on: May 02, 2020, 01:43:45 PM »
No I agree, she's just a racist with an inferiority complex and a big chip on her shoulder.  She espouses what's worst about London these days.

If she thinks she is better than white people ie racist, surely she has a superiority complex ?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is The Tory Party Institutionally Racist....
« Reply #374 on: May 02, 2020, 01:48:20 PM »
You will get no argument from me.

I don't need any argument... It's ipse facto loquor... Or something like that