White House Farm - ITV Drama Series - Part 5

[Angelo222]

Why shoot everyone else so many times, unless the shooter was deranged?

The rifle was low powered Eleanor so he had to shoot everyone multiple times. I think Bamber overestimated the power of his rifle and ran out of shells too quickly meaning he had to scarper downstairs for more ammo and that gave Nevill the opportunity to try to get help.  But Bamber clobbered him with the rifle butt and a fight ensued. This is the fight some including Holly would have us believe that Sheila was involved in yet there wasn't a mark on her and no blood spatter on her or her clothing.

[Holly Goodhead]

The rifle was low powered Eleanor so he had to shoot everyone multiple times. I think Bamber overestimated the power of his rifle and ran out of shells too quickly meaning he had to scarper downstairs for more ammo.

It wasn't low powered at all:

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=11191.msg570652#msg570652

So many shots were required as the perp was inexperienced with firearms and was hitting limbs (June) and the torso (NB).

[Angelo222]

Or they were shot first and she felt there wss nothing left to live for.

No, I don't buy into that scenario. Sheila would have gone berserk had she seen her boys murdered and that would have caused Bamber a massive problem.

[Angelo222]

It wasn't low powered at all:

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=11191.msg570652#msg570652

So many shots were required as the perp was inexperienced with firearms and was hitting limbs (June) and the torso (NB).

You obviously don't know your guns Holly. A 38 revolver would have killed everyone instantly with one strategic shot. The .22 rifle with gaming ammo is for shooting rabbits, crows and pigeons.

[Angelo222]

What does this prove?

Even if JB did offer up explicit images of SC what does it prove?  It shows him as being immature, but then he was only 24 yoa, and it shows him exercising poor juudgement and being crass and insensitive.  It doesn't show who pulled the trigger.

Immature my ass, it clearly shows what sort of a depraved monster he is.  And you lend support to such a creature?  Sorry if this offends but it has to be said.

I'm off out to get my Chinese... hopefully minus the coronavirus   

[Holly Goodhead]

You obviously don't know your guns Holly. A 38 revolver would have killed everyone instantly with one strategic shot. The .22 rifle with gaming ammo is for shooting rabbits, crows and pigeons.

Neither it seems do you Angelo.  The maths and physics speak for themselves. This can be evidenced by the case of David Bain where victims died from single gunshots fired from a. 22 rifle.

Furthermore the bullets were hollow nosed.

[Angelo222]

Neither it seems do you Angelo.  The maths and physics speak for themselves. This can be evidenced by the case of David Bain where victims died from single gunshots fired from a. 22 rifle.

Furthermore the bullets were hollow nosed.

Different charge Holly.  Why do you think police use magnum shells?

[Holly Goodhead]

Different charge Holly.  Why do you think police use magnum shells?

No idea what you mean by charge?

Hollow nosed bullets were used at the shooting incident at WHF and are the most lethal:

https://youtu.be/xb9nXeXqEho

[Holly Goodhead]

No idea what you mean by charge?

Hollow nosed bullets were used at the shooting incident at WHF and are the most lethal:

https://youtu.be/xb9nXeXqEho

https://eley.co.uk/eley-subsonic-hollow/

[Angelo222]

No idea what you mean by charge?

Hollow nosed bullets were used at the shooting incident at WHF and are the most lethal:

https://youtu.be/xb9nXeXqEho

Which sort of proves my point.

Overpressure ammunition, commonly designated as +P or +P+, is small arms ammunition that has been loaded to a higher internal pressure than is standard for ammunition of its caliber (see internal ballistics), but less than the pressures generated by a proof round. This is done typically to produce rounds with a higher muzzle velocity and stopping power, such as ammunition used for defensive purposes. Because of this, +P ammunition is typically found in handgun calibers which might be used for defensive purposes.

Generally, the “magnum” fires precisely the same bullet but it fires it from a longer cartridge. That longer cartridge contains more propellant, so, if the gun is properly engineered, the bullet will leave the gun at a higher velocity than the standard gun/cartridge. ... Magnum means “bigger cartridge”.

As I stated previously, the ammo Bamber was using was only suitable for shooting small animals and birds and not human beings.

[mrswah]

Which sort of proves my point.

Overpressure ammunition, commonly designated as +P or +P+, is small arms ammunition that has been loaded to a higher internal pressure than is standard for ammunition of its caliber (see internal ballistics), but less than the pressures generated by a proof round. This is done typically to produce rounds with a higher muzzle velocity and stopping power, such as ammunition used for defensive purposes. Because of this, +P ammunition is typically found in handgun calibers which might be used for defensive purposes.

Generally, the “magnum” fires precisely the same bullet but it fires it from a longer cartridge. That longer cartridge contains more propellant, so, if the gun is properly engineered, the bullet will leave the gun at a higher velocity than the standard gun/cartridge. ... Magnum means “bigger cartridge”.

As I stated previously, the ammo Bamber was using was only suitable for shooting small animals and birds and not human beings.

Wouldn't Bamber have known this, since he was experienced with guns? Why do you think he didn't use a different gun with different ammo?

[Holly Goodhead]

Which sort of proves my point.

Overpressure ammunition, commonly designated as +P or +P+, is small arms ammunition that has been loaded to a higher internal pressure than is standard for ammunition of its caliber (see internal ballistics), but less than the pressures generated by a proof round. This is done typically to produce rounds with a higher muzzle velocity and stopping power, such as ammunition used for defensive purposes. Because of this, +P ammunition is typically found in handgun calibers which might be used for defensive purposes.

Generally, the “magnum” fires precisely the same bullet but it fires it from a longer cartridge. That longer cartridge contains more propellant, so, if the gun is properly engineered, the bullet will leave the gun at a higher velocity than the standard gun/cartridge. ... Magnum means “bigger cartridge”.

As I stated previously, the ammo Bamber was using was only suitable for shooting small animals and birds and not human beings.

Are you suggesting the rifle and ammo used at WHF were insufficient to cause death from a single gunshot to head or major organ?

[Eleanor]

Perhaps a deranged person did do it.

[Myster]

Yes, he was deranged... very deranged, with the thoughts of getting one over the cops and a near half-million inheritance he would pocket for very little effort.

[barrier]

Yes, he was deranged... very deranged, with the thoughts of getting one over the cops and a near half-million inheritance he would pocket for very little effort.

Or cold and calculated,he thought it through,using so many shots when less may well have been sufficient.