Social Media Commentary Re JB And His Case

[Holly Goodhead]

Carol Ann Lee states in her book that the bible was returned to the surviving relatives in 2006, and I have seen that stated elsewhere on threads here preceding the time her book was published.

How does the above make it factually correct?

[Holly Goodhead]

The bible was given back to the family.

Evidenced by what?

[Holly Goodhead]

I wouldn't bet on that 

Coa are already committed to doing this:

165. In February 1996, the Essex police destroyed many of the original trial exhibits without reference to the appellant or his legal representatives. It might have been necessary for this court to examine the circumstances in which this had happened. The police officer responsible contended that it was done without his appreciating that there was any on-going legal process that might require the further use of the exhibits. However, during argument it was agreed that the court could protect the appellant's position by making assumptions in his favour and that, therefore, it was unnecessary to resolve precisely how this came about.

[steve_trousers]

If June had the wherewithal to walk around the bed and back to the door she had the wherewithal to carry her bible.

In times of crisis the religious turn to God.  This can be evidenced by Kate McCann turning to the bible physically and spiritually.

David Boutflour:

"I prayed to God that he would save Simon telling Him that I would go to church for the rest of my life".

The obvious difference being that Boutflour and McCann weren't mortally wounded at the time.

[Holly Goodhead]

The obvious difference being that Boutflour and McCann weren't mortally wounded at the time.

Neither was June evidenced by the fact she had the wherewithal to walk around the bed and back to the door.

[steve_trousers]

Neither was June evidenced by the fact she had the wherewithal to walk around the bed and back to the door.

Yes, she had already been mortally wounded regardless that she was able to walk a short distance around the bed.

Mortally wounded people have a tendency to be more concerned with their wounds than having a quick read of the bible.


 

[Holly Goodhead]

Yes, she had already been mortally wounded regardless that she was able to walk a short distance around the bed.

Mortally wounded people have a tendency to be more concerned with their wounds than having a quick read of the bible.

If she had the wherewithal to walk around the bed and back to the door there was no reason for her not to carry her bible.  You don't know what she was concerned with in those last moments and what took precedence.

[Holly Goodhead]

If she had the wherewithal to walk around the bed and back to the door there was no reason for her not to carry her bible.  You don't know what she was concerned with in those last moments and what took precedence.

And I've never suggested she did attempt to read the bible during her last moments just that she carried it as part of her strong faith and maybe for comfort too.

[Caroline]

And I've never suggested she did attempt to read the bible during her last moments just that she carried it as part of her strong faith and maybe for comfort too.

June was covered in blood, the cover would be blood stained had that happened, it wasn't.

[Caroline]

Coa are already committed to doing this:

165. In February 1996, the Essex police destroyed many of the original trial exhibits without reference to the appellant or his legal representatives. It might have been necessary for this court to examine the circumstances in which this had happened. The police officer responsible contended that it was done without his appreciating that there was any on-going legal process that might require the further use of the exhibits. However, during argument it was agreed that the court could protect the appellant's position by making assumptions in his favour and that, therefore, it was unnecessary to resolve precisely how this came about.

Yes, I have read that but NEW evidence is always considered.

[Caroline]

Evidenced by what?

I am sure you are aware, that as interested parties on Internet forums, we don't have full access to all the evidence. Just because there is no document backing this up on the internet, doesn't mean it didn't happen. It remains a possibility that the bible still exists.

[steve_trousers]

If she had the wherewithal to walk around the bed and back to the door there was no reason for her not to carry her bible.  You don't know what she was concerned with in those last moments and what took precedence.

I know it's splitting hairs but I would use the term stagger not walk to describe any movement from June.
It seems reasonable to assume that a mortally wounded person shot several times in the face and limbs would have been preoccupied with their pain/wounds at that stage, not the bible.

And then she conveniently dropped this bible exactly beside where Sheila was later found laying after she had taken her shower to wash the blood, residue and sugar off her in order to frame Jeremy? Good grief!

No, It was arrogant stupidity from Jeremy to plant the bible. Things went broadly according to his plan that night but he must have turned white when he realised a second shot was needed to finish Sheila. The bible was a convenient prop to shore up the deranged nature of her crime.
 

[Holly Goodhead]

June was covered in blood, the cover would be blood stained had that happened, it wasn't.

We don't know how it was carried.

[Holly Goodhead]

Yes, I have read that but NEW evidence is always considered.

Your research into this shows the appeal court judges were wrong insofar as the page with the heaviest staining was furthest away from SC's body not nearest.  This shows the 3 appeal court judges have poor spatial skills

[Holly Goodhead]

I am sure you are aware, that as interested parties on Internet forums, we don't have full access to all the evidence. Just because there is no document backing this up on the internet, doesn't mean it didn't happen. It remains a possibility that the bible still exists.

If it exists insofar as it was returned to the relatives it begs the question why the police returned any exhibits to the relatives?