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Offline Nicholas

Re: White House Farm - ITV Drama Series - Part 6
« Reply #30 on: February 15, 2020, 01:42:02 PM »
His followers would still believe he is innocent even if he admitted it.

Cognitive conceit (the self-belief of I’m never wrong)

As witnessed following the exposure of Simon Halls guilt

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Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline John

Re: White House Farm - ITV Drama Series - Part 6
« Reply #31 on: February 16, 2020, 11:13:01 AM »
He is basically a cult leader now. His followers would still believe he is innocent even if he admitted it. "Hes just saying that to get out" they'd say.

Not in every case thankfully.  As a former member of the blue forum I have to say that some so-called followers are open minded enough to look at all the evidence.  There are many people who were once taken in by his charisma but who now utterly reject his claims. There are several lawyers among this group so it just goes to show how persuasive he can be in reality.

I will add that I also once thought him to be innocent purely on semantics but having gone into the case in great depth I can now see no other possibility other than the jury was correct to convict.  It was a dreadful crime, to murder anyone in such a callous way, let alone two young children, took someone with a really damaged mindset.

« Last Edit: February 16, 2020, 11:19:20 AM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Brietta

Re: White House Farm - ITV Drama Series - Part 6
« Reply #32 on: February 16, 2020, 02:16:04 PM »

I think he must have hated and resented Sheila just every bit as much as he allegedly despised his parents.

What he thought about the boys I can't imagine except that taking them out of the equation sorted any impediment between him and his inheritance.

I think Julie Mugford was one very lucky young lady not to have been added to his list at a later stage and I think she might have thought the same when he so obviously tired of her.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline APRIL

Re: White House Farm - ITV Drama Series - Part 6
« Reply #33 on: February 16, 2020, 02:46:47 PM »
I think he must have hated and resented Sheila just every bit as much as he allegedly despised his parents.

What he thought about the boys I can't imagine except that taking them out of the equation sorted any impediment between him and his inheritance.

I think Julie Mugford was one very lucky young lady not to have been added to his list at a later stage and I think she might have thought the same when he so obviously tired of her.

I think that goes without saying. Sibling rivalry isn't uncommon generally. It's only about one sibling perceiving another as receiving the lion's share of whatever's going. In this case maybe he resented the thought of Sheila and her sons getting, free and grastis, that part of the inheritance he felt an entitlement to.

Offline Brietta

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« Reply #34 on: February 16, 2020, 03:22:01 PM »
I think that goes without saying. Sibling rivalry isn't uncommon generally. It's only about one sibling perceiving another as receiving the lion's share of whatever's going. In this case maybe he resented the thought of Sheila and her sons getting, free and grastis, that part of the inheritance he felt an entitlement to.

The thing that got me about it was when the father described Bamber running past him on the stair with his hair spiked up with soap mimicking a photograph taken of the twins in the bath.

I think it would take a horrible type of mind set to mock children like that:  it obviously wasn't enough to have robbed them of their lives but instead of showing the slightest remorse he appeared to be revelling in it.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Caroline

Re: White House Farm - ITV Drama Series - Part 6
« Reply #35 on: February 16, 2020, 03:28:22 PM »
The thing that got me about it was when the father described Bamber running past him on the stair with his hair spiked up with soap mimicking a photograph taken of the twins in the bath.

I think it would take a horrible type of mind set to mock children like that:  it obviously wasn't enough to have robbed them of their lives but instead of showing the slightest remorse he appeared to be revelling in it.

The card on the flowers he sent for their funeral speaks volumes!

“Happiness on your travels, love to you both. Uncle Jeremy and Julie. If ever anyone needed proof of lack of empathy - look no further!

Offline APRIL

Re: White House Farm - ITV Drama Series - Part 6
« Reply #36 on: February 16, 2020, 03:31:09 PM »
The thing that got me about it was when the father described Bamber running past him on the stair with his hair spiked up with soap mimicking a photograph taken of the twins in the bath.

I think it would take a horrible type of mind set to mock children like that:  it obviously wasn't enough to have robbed them of their lives but instead of showing the slightest remorse he appeared to be revelling in it.


Lack of empathy was crystal clear when, rather than allowing Colin to take his time over which things of the boys he wanted, what Jeremy thought he might want was chucked, ignominiously, into black dustbin bags. It MAY have been that time was crucial, but he knew how to use a phone!!!!

Offline Brietta

Re: White House Farm - ITV Drama Series - Part 6
« Reply #37 on: February 16, 2020, 03:31:30 PM »
The card on the flowers he sent for their funeral speaks volumes!

“Happiness on your travels, love to you both. Uncle Jeremy and Julie. If ever anyone needed proof of lack of empathy - look no further!

My heart breaks for those innocent wee boys.  I didn't know about the card.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Brietta

Re: White House Farm - ITV Drama Series - Part 6
« Reply #38 on: February 16, 2020, 03:41:00 PM »

Lack of empathy was crystal clear when, rather than allowing Colin to take his time over which things of the boys he wanted, what Jeremy thought he might want was chucked, ignominiously, into black dustbin bags. It MAY have been that time was crucial, but he knew how to use a phone!!!!

Anyone who has been tasked with breaking up a home knows exactly how that feels.  I found the portrayal of what he did at Sheila's flat callous in the extreme ... there must have been many precious mementos of the boys there Colin might have wanted to keep.
He should at least have been allowed the opportunity.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline APRIL

Re: White House Farm - ITV Drama Series - Part 6
« Reply #39 on: February 16, 2020, 03:43:52 PM »
Anyone who has been tasked with breaking up a home knows exactly how that feels.  I found the portrayal of what he did at Sheila's flat callous in the extreme ... there must have been many precious mementos of the boys there Colin might have wanted to keep.
He should at least have been allowed the opportunity.


It's a very private and intimate thing. Jeremy wasn't saving Colin's distress. He was denying him something precious.

Offline Brietta

Re: White House Farm - ITV Drama Series - Part 6
« Reply #40 on: February 16, 2020, 04:05:40 PM »

It's a very private and intimate thing. Jeremy wasn't saving Colin's distress. He was denying him something precious.

Bamber comes over to me as a manipulative guy who has to be in control of everyone and everything around him.  Perhaps he used his 'charisma' to that end but I think he just couldn't resist going out of his way to torture Colin for fun, as if the man hadn't suffered enough.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline APRIL

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« Reply #41 on: February 16, 2020, 04:18:33 PM »
Bamber comes over to me as a manipulative guy who has to be in control of everyone and everything around him.  Perhaps he used his 'charisma' to that end but I think he just couldn't resist going out of his way to torture Colin for fun, as if the man hadn't suffered enough.


I'm inclined to wonder if he harboured some deep seated resentment against Colin for how much he'd loved his boys?

Offline Brietta

Re: White House Farm - ITV Drama Series - Part 6
« Reply #42 on: February 16, 2020, 05:49:53 PM »

I'm inclined to wonder if he harboured some deep seated resentment against Colin for how much he'd loved his boys?

From my recently acquired small knowledge of the background to the case I think he certainly seems to have treated Colin with a fine contempt.

I think the only person living that Jeremy Bamber didn't hold a deep seated resentment for is Jeremy Bamber.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline APRIL

Re: White House Farm - ITV Drama Series - Part 6
« Reply #43 on: February 16, 2020, 05:58:57 PM »
From my recently acquired small knowledge of the background to the case I think he certainly seems to have treated Colin with a fine contempt.

I think the only person living that Jeremy Bamber didn't hold a deep seated resentment for is Jeremy Bamber.


Very succinctly said 8)--)) 8)--))

Offline adam

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« Reply #44 on: February 17, 2020, 08:10:12 AM »
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.essexlive.news/news/essex-news/reasons-jeremy-bamber-maintains-innocent-3841125.amp&ved=2ahUKEwiP_66GkNjnAhURM8AKHQlxDyIQFjAhegQICBAC&usg=AOvVaw2uZFv-1Tt3ep-PR5dhvjs-&ampcf=1

The reasons Bamber says he is innocent.

All very weak & suggested by Bamber. Nevill's call to the police being suggested 25 years later.

The silencer is not included.
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