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Offline G-Unit

Re: The phone call
« Reply #330 on: February 23, 2020, 02:39:46 PM »
She also had a family that paid her rent, gave her money as and when she needed it. She didn't really have to work and could see her kids whenever she wanted. Her mental issues were being medicated - which is why all descriptions are of someone uncoordinated. These descriptions come from independent sources - NOT just the family. Jeremy didn't have a 'meltdown' - he had a plan and a liking for the highlife.

At the age of 28 being reliant on her parents to keep a roof over her head and money in her purse was not going to be a comfort, it was just another sign of their control of her and her inability to become her own person. He (or she) who pays the piper calls the tune.
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Offline Caroline

Re: The phone call
« Reply #331 on: February 23, 2020, 02:46:56 PM »
At the age of 28 being reliant on her parents to keep a roof over her head and money in her purse was not going to be a comfort, it was just another sign of their control of her and her inability to become her own person. He (or she) who pays the piper calls the tune.

How many people on the dole right now would feel far more comfortable if they had a benefactor? It's all she had really known. Also, The Bmabers gave Jeremy free accommodation, a free car and fuel - he didn't want to work at the farm but it was the price he paid for the benefits - with itchy feet and what he thought wasn't enough money - who was more resentful. You can't apply one rule for Sheila and not to Jeremy.

Offline APRIL

Re: The phone call
« Reply #332 on: February 23, 2020, 02:59:05 PM »
At the age of 28 being reliant on her parents to keep a roof over her head and money in her purse was not going to be a comfort, it was just another sign of their control of her and her inability to become her own person. He (or she) who pays the piper calls the tune.


It had always been thus. She'd have known that whatever hole she was in, they were there to dig her out. Actually, less was required of her, than Jeremy. If any of her numerous failed careers/marriage had succeeded, that support may not have been necessary, unlike Jeremy, who had to work -at something he wasn't enamoured with- to earn what Sheila got for free.

Offline G-Unit

Re: The phone call
« Reply #333 on: February 23, 2020, 03:51:38 PM »
How many people on the dole right now would feel far more comfortable if they had a benefactor? It's all she had really known. Also, The Bmabers gave Jeremy free accommodation, a free car and fuel - he didn't want to work at the farm but it was the price he paid for the benefits - with itchy feet and what he thought wasn't enough money - who was more resentful. You can't apply one rule for Sheila and not to Jeremy.

A true benefactor wants nothing in return, whereas the Bambers used money to control their children. That's economic abuse.
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Offline APRIL

Re: The phone call
« Reply #334 on: February 23, 2020, 04:04:05 PM »
A true benefactor wants nothing in return, whereas the Bambers used money to control their children. That's economic abuse.


It could also be called emotional blackmail and psychological/emotional abuse. However, it's likely that the senior Bambers just saw it as being parents.

Offline Caroline

Re: The phone call
« Reply #335 on: February 23, 2020, 04:14:46 PM »
A true benefactor wants nothing in return, whereas the Bambers used money to control their children. That's economic abuse.

Then there are a lot of people suffering from it then! I hardly call two around the world trips ‘abusive’ There worse things but  the situation benefited Sheila - it just made Jeremy resentful. Do you think the price they paid was justifiable for more than providing for their children?

Offline Caroline

Re: The phone call
« Reply #336 on: February 23, 2020, 04:15:52 PM »

It could also be called emotional blackmail and psychological/emotional abuse. However, it's likely that the senior Bambers just saw it as being parents.

You could apply those term to half the parents  in the country.
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Offline APRIL

Re: The phone call
« Reply #337 on: February 23, 2020, 04:33:57 PM »
You could apply those term to have the parents  in the country.


Name me a parent who hasn't resorted to it now and again!!!!

Offline Caroline

Re: The phone call
« Reply #338 on: February 23, 2020, 05:46:42 PM »

Name me a parent who hasn't resorted to it now and again!!!!

I guess you worked out that I meant 'half'?  @)(++(* @)(++(* I hate predictive text!  %56&

Offline APRIL

Re: The phone call
« Reply #339 on: February 23, 2020, 06:21:16 PM »
I guess you worked out that I meant 'half'?  @)(++(* @)(++(* I hate predictive text!  %56&


Can make for interesting reading, though 8(0(*

Offline G-Unit

Re: The phone call
« Reply #340 on: February 23, 2020, 07:25:46 PM »
Then there are a lot of people suffering from it then! I hardly call two around the world trips ‘abusive’ There worse things but  the situation benefited Sheila - it just made Jeremy resentful. Do you think the price they paid was justifiable for more than providing for their children?

You clearly don't understand economic abuse.
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Offline APRIL

Re: The phone call
« Reply #341 on: February 23, 2020, 07:51:42 PM »
You clearly don't understand economic abuse.


Is there proof that either was guilty of it? Many parents dangle the financial carrot under their children's noses as a way of keeping them in check. Of course, they then complain bitterly that their children won't do anything for them unless they're paid for doing it. Both parents and children get to learn, too late, that there's no such thing as a free lunch.

Offline Caroline

Re: The phone call
« Reply #342 on: February 23, 2020, 08:05:32 PM »
You clearly don't understand economic abuse.

And you don’t understand the difference between taking money for an easy life and being supported by ones family due to no fault of their own.

Offline G-Unit

Re: The phone call
« Reply #343 on: February 23, 2020, 10:20:46 PM »
And you don’t understand the difference between taking money for an easy life and being supported by ones family due to no fault of their own.

I can condemn June Bamber quite easily. Any adopted mother who tells her child she has 'bad blood' is a disgrace. I know because it happened to me.
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Offline Caroline

Re: The phone call
« Reply #344 on: February 24, 2020, 12:01:48 AM »
I can condemn June Bamber quite easily. Any adopted mother who tells her child she has 'bad blood' is a disgrace. I know because it happened to me.

June was a victim of an horrendous murder and suffered mental health issues herself. Clearly she should never have said that nor should that have happened to you. But you managed to get though life having had such an experience without murdering anyone so why should you be so surprised that Sheila didn't?