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[barrier]

I wrote to him for about 3 years - the final few letters were uncomfortable because I had more or less changed my mind. Once it was cemented, I stopped - however, someone must have wrote and told him because I had a letter out of the blue asking why. As part of the explanation I told him about how he avoided the wallet question - he replied by saying that he just didn't remember the question, however, later in the same letter he said he didn't answer the question because he didn't think it was important - two excuses - once letter  I didn't reply and I haven't heard from him since.

He sounds manipulative,if allowed to be.

[Caroline]

He sounds manipulative,if allowed to be.

Oh I agree, I didn't allow it, some have. He deems to drop people when they are no longer useful. Quite a few people have those stories.

[The General]

He did exactly that - he avoided answering awkward questions - even when I asked him more than once. I know some people don't think this is important but I DO! When he returned to WHF and Ann walked him through, he was supposed to be upset at first (great actor) but once the dust has settled on that, he went straight up stairs on his own, came running down and said 'where is dads wallet, there was £400 - £500 ponds in that + credit cards. How did he know? In all the years I lived and worked with my dad, I never knew at ANY time, how much was in his wallet. So I asked him how he knew, I asked him a long list of question in the same letter, he answered ever single question EXCEPT that one. So I asked him again. He response was "I know you asked me a specific question but I can't remember what it was but I think the answer was 'no' or 'I didn't'. If he didn't remember the question, he only had to read the letter again. This is only one example, but there are a few things that I haven't discussed on the forum which are highly suspicious. I'll sit on those for now!

The wallet thing is an example of when Bamber turned on and off the grief, who goes looking for money on a return to a scene where your parents and whole family have been killed? It's almost like he bided his time, having previously counted it!

Totally new to this forum, so apologies for the total lack of knowledge - but what's the significance of the wallet? He went looking for it on a subsequent visit with whom and for what purpose was the visit?

[Caroline]

Totally new to this forum, so apologies for the total lack of knowledge - but what's the significance of the wallet? He went looking for it on a subsequent visit with whom and for what purpose was the visit?

I don't have time to reply to this now, but before I do, what is your standing on the case? Guilty? Innocent? 'Fence sitter'?

[The General]

I don't have time to reply to this now, but before I do, what is your standing on the case? Guilty? Innocent? 'Fence sitter'?

I have read the reference material available on the forum, but haven't watched the TV series.
He's as guilty as anybody can be, in my opinion. Super guilty. OJ guilty.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I have read the reference material available on the forum, but haven't watched the TV series.
He's as guilty as anybody can be, in my opinion. Super guilty. OJ guilty.

Something we can agree on.

[The General]

Something we can agree on.

Hey, we agree all the time.

[puglove]

I have read the reference material available on the forum, but haven't watched the TV series.
He's as guilty as anybody can be, in my opinion. Super guilty. OJ guilty.

OJ, Oscar, Huntley and Bridger guilty.


 

[Caroline]

I have read the reference material available on the forum, but haven't watched the TV series.
He's as guilty as anybody can be, in my opinion. Super guilty. OJ guilty.

Well, we're on the same page there.

OK - the wallet. I will say from the off, that this is just my opinion, you may think it's valid, you may not. I certainly do.

After the murders, Bamber was apprehensive to return to the farm. On Wednesday 14th August, AE called Jeremy and suggested he some to the farm, basically, to get it over with. He initially seemed physically shaken while Ann took him around the house and explained what happened where. They eventually returned o the kitchen where Jeremy suddenly became his old self again. He then went back upstairs and returned complaining that he fathers wallet was missing. He said there was £400.00 - £500.00 in it, plus credit cards and other items. The rang EP asking for 'Jones' to complain. The point is, how did he A. know what the wallet contained and how did he actually know it was missing and not just in another place? The only way he would know it was missing, is if he knew where it was on the night of the murders.

I used to think Bamber was innocent but I did have a few niggles, the wallet being one of them. I asked him about it via letter along with quite a few other questions - he answered every question except that one. So I asked him again, he didn't reply for quite some time, so I wrote again. This time he did reply and he said "I know you asked me a specific question but I don't recall was it was, however, I think the answer was no or I didn't". Clearly it was an attempt to avoid the issue. The stupid thing is, that in another letter, he actually talked about not being able to find the wallet!

[Vertigo Swirl]

Well, we're on the same page there.

OK - the wallet. I will say from the off, that this is just my opinion, you may think it's valid, you may not. I certainly do.

After the murders, Bamber was apprehensive to return to the farm. On Wednesday 14th August, AE called Jeremy and suggested he some to the farm, basically, to get it over with. He initially seemed physically shaken while Ann took him around the house and explained what happened where. They eventually returned o the kitchen where Jeremy suddenly became his old self again. He then went back upstairs and returned complaining that he fathers wallet was missing. He said there was £400.00 - £500.00 in it, plus credit cards and other items. The rang EP asking for 'Jones' to complain. The point is, how did he A. know what the wallet contained and how did he actually know it was missing and not just in another place? The only way he would know it was missing, is if he knew where it was on the night of the murders.

I used to think Bamber was innocent but I did have a few niggles, the wallet being one of them. I asked him about it via letter along with quite a few other questions - he answered every question except that one. So I asked him again, he didn't reply for quite some time, so I wrote again. This time he did reply and he said "I know you asked me a specific question but I don't recall was it was, however, I think the answer was no or I didn't". Clearly it was an attempt to avoid the issue. The stupid thing is, that in another letter, he actually talked about not being able to find the wallet!

So he would have seen the wallet after the killings, looked inside and seen the money, thought "I'm having that but better not take it now, in case questions are asked about where the money went (assuming it had been withdrawn from the bank recently) but will come back and collect it after the event"??

[The General]

Well, we're on the same page there.

OK - the wallet. I will say from the off, that this is just my opinion, you may think it's valid, you may not. I certainly do.

After the murders, Bamber was apprehensive to return to the farm. On Wednesday 14th August, AE called Jeremy and suggested he some to the farm, basically, to get it over with. He initially seemed physically shaken while Ann took him around the house and explained what happened where. They eventually returned o the kitchen where Jeremy suddenly became his old self again. He then went back upstairs and returned complaining that he fathers wallet was missing. He said there was £400.00 - £500.00 in it, plus credit cards and other items. The rang EP asking for 'Jones' to complain. The point is, how did he A. know what the wallet contained and how did he actually know it was missing and not just in another place? The only way he would know it was missing, is if he knew where it was on the night of the murders.

I used to think Bamber was innocent but I did have a few niggles, the wallet being one of them. I asked him about it via letter along with quite a few other questions - he answered every question except that one. So I asked him again, he didn't reply for quite some time, so I wrote again. This time he did reply and he said "I know you asked me a specific question but I don't recall was it was, however, I think the answer was no or I didn't". Clearly it was an attempt to avoid the issue. The stupid thing is, that in another letter, he actually talked about not being able to find the wallet!

So, at the first available opportunity JB drew attention to the missing wallet. Where did he expect to find it post a forensic search? One explanation for drawing attention to it was perhaps to attempt to cast aspersions on the honesty of the investigating officers?
Again, please excuse my ignorance, but where was it found and what did it contain?

[Caroline]

So, at the first available opportunity JB drew attention to the missing wallet. Where did he expect to find it post a forensic search? One explanation for drawing attention to it was perhaps to attempt to cast aspersions on the honesty of the investigating officers?
Again, please excuse my ignorance, but where was it found and what did it contain?

I think he was genuinely pissed off because the wallet wasn't where he knew it should be and he lost his cool and let his guard down. The relatives had collected it along with June's handbags and jewellery the previous Saturday to give to the executor. Ann Eaton didn't actually say how much was in the wallet but she doesn't indicate that he was incorrect. Not sure why she didn't just say that they had taken it.

[Brietta]

I think he was genuinely pissed off because the wallet wasn't where he knew it should be and he lost his cool and let his guard down. The relatives had collected it along with June's handbags and jewellery the previous Saturday to give to the executor. Ann Eaton didn't actually say how much was in the wallet but she doesn't indicate that he was incorrect. Not sure why she didn't just say that they had taken it.

Maybe she was disgusted at where his priorities seemed to lie.  I think a few hundred pounds would have paled into insignificance for most people if their family had just been slaughtered.

[APRIL]

Maybe she was disgusted at where his priorities seemed to lie.  I think a few hundred pounds would have paled into insignificance for most people if their family had just been slaughtered.

Maybe she'd had prior experience of what a thwarted Jeremy was capable of.

[Brietta]

Maybe she'd had prior experience of what a thwarted Jeremy was capable of.

I'm forgetting what this guy was convicted of; knowing him, his family must have been on their guard around him particularly as their suspicion of him hardened.