Question to members

[G-Unit]

I think he was genuinely pissed off because the wallet wasn't where he knew it should be and he lost his cool and let his guard down. The relatives had collected it along with June's handbags and jewellery the previous Saturday to give to the executor. Ann Eaton didn't actually say how much was in the wallet but she doesn't indicate that he was incorrect. Not sure why she didn't just say that they had taken it.

I found out why Ann and her father 'almost felt guilty'. It was because her father 'had checked the wallet and Uncle Nevill's trouser pockets on Saturday for Mr Cock'. [Ann Eaton's statement to SY 14/05/91 page 45]

So was Jeremy right? Was there four or five hundred pounds in it? Mr Cock mentions as cash in hand what was found in June's purse, but doesn't mention Nevill's wallet or any cash belonging to him being found.

[APRIL]

I'm forgetting what this guy was convicted of; knowing him, his family must have been on their guard around him particularly as their suspicion of him hardened.

Or their suspicion became hardened because they'd always felt the need to be on their guard against him? Incidences, having nothing to do with the crimes he was convicted for, levied against him don't make him a murderer, any more than does the odd coincidence which goes against him. However, when there's a plethora of  crime related coincidences combined with non crime related 'incidences' noted over the years by the family............

[Caroline]

I found out why Ann and her father 'almost felt guilty'. It was because her father 'had checked the wallet and Uncle Nevill's trouser pockets on Saturday for Mr Cock'. [Ann Eaton's statement to SY 14/05/91 page 45]

So was Jeremy right? Was there four or five hundred pounds in it? Mr Cock mentions as cash in hand what was found in June's purse, but doesn't mention Nevill's wallet or any cash belonging to him being found.

I already told you that AE gave the wallet to BC. AE said that Jeremy mentioned how much was in the wallet and she doesn't mention that he was wrong. However, again, you have missed the point but as you have gone off on the direction that supporters predictably do, it's not worth the effort.

[G-Unit]

I already told you that AE gave the wallet to BC. AE said that Jeremy mentioned how much was in the wallet and she doesn't mention that he was wrong. However, again, you have missed the point but as you have gone off on the direction that supporters predictably do, it's not worth the effort.

You also said it was in the exhibits list, suggesting that it had been given to the police. I agree with something DS Jones is reported to have said when Ann Eaton was complaining that Jeremy was taking large items from WHF to sell, when Basil Cock had told her he had given Jeremy permission to sell only small items. He said 'Is it yours?' 'No' replied Ann. 'What's it got to do with you then?' [Ann Eaton statement 14/05/91 page 58]

[Caroline]

You also said it was in the exhibits list, suggesting that it had been given to the police. I agree with something DS Jones is reported to have said when Ann Eaton was complaining that Jeremy was taking large items from WHF to sell, when Basil Cock had told her he had given Jeremy permission to sell only small items. He said 'Is it yours?' 'No' replied Ann. 'What's it got to do with you then?' [Ann Eaton statement 14/05/91 page 58]

It is in the exhibits list and once again you have completely MISSED the point in order to shift the blame to AE - it's a typical supporter ploy.

[G-Unit]

It is in the exhibits list and once again you have completely MISSED the point in order to shift the blame to AE - it's a typical supporter ploy.

It's unlikely to be in the list if it were given to Mr Cock. You may find it unsavoury for Jeremy to be asking about his murdered father's wallet, but it's equally unsavoury to almost immediately ask for your murdered aunt's engagement ring in my opinion.

[Vertigo Swirl]

It's unlikely to be in the list if it were given to Mr Cock. You may find it unsavoury for Jeremy to be asking about his murdered father's wallet, but it's equally unsavoury to almost immediately ask for your murdered aunt's engagement ring in my opinion.

Do you think a wallet full of cash has the same sentimental value as a dead woman’s engagement ring?

[Caroline]

It's unlikely to be in the list if it were given to Mr Cock. You may find it unsavoury for Jeremy to be asking about his murdered father's wallet, but it's equally unsavoury to almost immediately ask for your murdered aunt's engagement ring in my opinion.

It IS in the list - You'll have to search for it. The contents would have been given to BC or are you suggesting that AE pocketed the money? Almost immediately? It would have needed to be before the funerals - Ann asked for the ring for her mother - June's sister, she was well within her rights to want a keep sake - it would have been odd if she'd asked for June's purse and the cash there within though!

[Caroline]

Do you think a wallet full of cash has the same sentimental value as a dead woman’s engagement ring?

I thought the same thing!

[Vertigo Swirl]

It IS in the list - You'll have to search for it. The contents would have been given to BC or are you suggesting that AE pocketed the money? Almost immediately? It would have needed to be before the funerals - Ann asked for the ring for her mother - June's sister, she was well within her rights to want a keep sake - it would have been odd if she'd asked for June's purse and the cash there within though!

Exactly!

[ISpyWithMyEye]

Well, we're on the same page there.

OK - the wallet. I will say from the off, that this is just my opinion, you may think it's valid, you may not. I certainly do.

After the murders, Bamber was apprehensive to return to the farm. On Wednesday 14th August, AE called Jeremy and suggested he some to the farm, basically, to get it over with. He initially seemed physically shaken while Ann took him around the house and explained what happened where. They eventually returned o the kitchen where Jeremy suddenly became his old self again. He then went back upstairs and returned complaining that he fathers wallet was missing. He said there was £400.00 - £500.00 in it, plus credit cards and other items. The rang EP asking for 'Jones' to complain. The point is, how did he A. know what the wallet contained and how did he actually know it was missing and not just in another place? The only way he would know it was missing, is if he knew where it was on the night of the murders.

I used to think Bamber was innocent but I did have a few niggles, the wallet being one of them. I asked him about it via letter along with quite a few other questions - he answered every question except that one. So I asked him again, he didn't reply for quite some time, so I wrote again. This time he did reply and he said "I know you asked me a specific question but I don't recall was it was, however, I think the answer was no or I didn't". Clearly it was an attempt to avoid the issue. The stupid thing is, that in another letter, he actually talked about not being able to find the wallet!

Exactly

Jeremy Bamber was the last person to see them alive inside the house, and the first person to see them all dead — so he knew EXACTLY where Nevill’s wallet was and how much it contained.

As Nevill lay dead in the kitchen, Jeremy went back upstairs to kill Sheila, then stepped over his dead mother and looked through Nevill’s wallet quickly counting the money with his evil filthy paws — probably stole £100 for his champagne the next day (hence why he said there was £400 - £500 in there: already blaming someone else of stealing some cash in case it got discovered), then cleared off home with that sickly upturned smirk on his gob.

[APRIL]

It's unlikely to be in the list if it were given to Mr Cock. You may find it unsavoury for Jeremy to be asking about his murdered father's wallet, but it's equally unsavoury to almost immediately ask for your murdered aunt's engagement ring in my opinion.

It's a strange sense of values which can claim money as having equal worth to the incalculable sentimental value of a piece of family jewellery, whatever it's financial worth. It may be erroneous, but the story goes that Jeremy had requested that June was cremated wearing her jewellery. It's said that the undertaker returned it to Basil Cock. That being so, I can only hope that Pamela did, eventually get it as a memento of her sister.

[G-Unit]

It's a strange sense of values which can claim money as having equal worth to the incalculable sentimental value of a piece of family jewellery, whatever it's financial worth. It may be erroneous, but the story goes that Jeremy had requested that June was cremated wearing her jewellery. It's said that the undertaker returned it to Basil Cock. That being so, I can only hope that Pamela did, eventually get it as a memento of her sister.

I made no such claim. I merely pointed out that Jeremy Bamber wasn't the only family member showing an interest in 'the spoils'. I assume Nevill bought or acquired June's engagement ring, so it had nothing to do with June's family.

Colin Caffell mentions Jeremy's feelings; he described his relatives as 'a load of f*****g magpies' nattering about his mother's jewellery and the farm. [In Search...page 64-5] According to Mr Cock in his w/s dated 16/09/85 Ann requested his presence at WHF on 10th, saying Jeremy had asked her to arrange it. [CAL page 222] I think that's unlikely, given his vews as expressed to Colin on the same weekend.

[mrswah]

It's a strange sense of values which can claim money as having equal worth to the incalculable sentimental value of a piece of family jewellery, whatever it's financial worth. It may be erroneous, but the story goes that Jeremy had requested that June was cremated wearing her jewellery. It's said that the undertaker returned it to Basil Cock. That being so, I can only hope that Pamela did, eventually get it as a memento of her sister.

The undertaker probably did return it. When my mum died, I remember being told told that she could not be cremated in her rings.

[G-Unit]

The undertaker probably did return it. When my mum died, I remember being told told that she could not be cremated in her rings.

What can you put in a coffin for cremation?

Items such as wooden rosary beads, flowers, soft toys and written messages can be placed inside someone’s coffin for cremation.

Jewellery items can also be cremated, but cannot be recovered after a cremation has happened. If you want to keep items of sentimental value placed in the coffin, be sure to let your funeral director know, so these can be recovered before the cremation and returned to you.
https://www.funeralguide.co.uk/help-resources/arranging-a-funeral/funeral-guides/what-can-you-put-in-a-coffin