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Offline Brietta

Re: When Madeleine is Found.
« Reply #90 on: March 03, 2020, 01:29:38 PM »

You reckon 1 swallow makes a summer?

There really isn't an appropriate answer to that statement when thought about in context. 
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline jassi

Re: When Madeleine is Found.
« Reply #91 on: March 03, 2020, 01:38:50 PM »
There really isn't an appropriate answer to that statement when thought about in context.

?  Too cryptic.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

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Offline G-Unit

Re: When Madeleine is Found.
« Reply #92 on: March 03, 2020, 03:24:49 PM »
I think the Fritzl children who were born in a cellar would give the lie to that.

Are you suggesting that they live a normal life?
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Offline Erngath

Re: When Madeleine is Found.
« Reply #93 on: March 03, 2020, 03:29:43 PM »
Are you suggesting that they live a normal life?

Their lives will certainly be more "normal" than when they were in a cellar.
No doubt there will be difficulties in their readjustment to a "normal" life but their lives can only be vastly better. IMO.
Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: When Madeleine is Found.
« Reply #94 on: March 03, 2020, 05:54:53 PM »

Well yes, but you're not allowed these negative thoughts. She has to be living with a loving family   8(0(*
Don’t talk tripe, there’s a love.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: When Madeleine is Found.
« Reply #95 on: March 03, 2020, 05:56:43 PM »
Would it?

If a child had been incarcerated in a cellar for more than a decade, would they feel confident enough to leave that environment, it having been all they knew?
You think most given the option of freedom or remaining in the cellar would choose the cellar?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline jassi

Re: When Madeleine is Found.
« Reply #96 on: March 03, 2020, 06:45:57 PM »
You think most given the option of freedom or remaining in the cellar would choose the cellar?
Once they understand the concept of freedom, but if the confines of a cellar all they really known, moving to the unknown might be very disturbing.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: When Madeleine is Found.
« Reply #97 on: March 03, 2020, 06:47:42 PM »
Once they understand the concept of freedom, but if the confines of a cellar all they really known, moving to the unknown might be very disturbing.
But that is no reason at all to let them carry on living in it.  I’m not really sure what point you’re trying to make tbh, are you?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline G-Unit

Re: When Madeleine is Found.
« Reply #98 on: March 03, 2020, 06:50:11 PM »
Their lives will certainly be more "normal" than when they were in a cellar.
No doubt there will be difficulties in their readjustment to a "normal" life but their lives can only be vastly better. IMO.

They need ongoing care as the physical and mental affects of what happened are many. They also have genetic diseases due to their incestuous heritage.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: When Madeleine is Found.
« Reply #99 on: March 03, 2020, 07:01:32 PM »
They need ongoing care as the physical and mental affects of what happened are many. They also have genetic diseases due to their incestuous heritage.
Would they have been better off if they’d been left to it, with Daddy in charge?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline jassi

Re: When Madeleine is Found.
« Reply #100 on: March 03, 2020, 07:02:07 PM »
But that is no reason at all to let them carry on living in it.  I’m not really sure what point you’re trying to make tbh, are you?

The point I was making was that it's not just as easy as opening the door and expecting them to fly free without a concern in the world. Deep psychological problems are to be expected from such situations.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Erngath

Re: When Madeleine is Found.
« Reply #101 on: March 03, 2020, 07:45:57 PM »
They need ongoing care as the physical and mental affects of what happened are many. They also have genetic diseases due to their incestuous heritage.

Horrendous difficulties.
I'm always amazed by survivors of concentration camps who were there as children and must have witnessed so many horrors and cruelty and had severe medical problems but their resilience and determination to make a future for a themselves is incredible.
No doubt they have many problems too which will need much time and support.
Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: When Madeleine is Found.
« Reply #102 on: March 03, 2020, 08:09:40 PM »
The point I was making was that it's not just as easy as opening the door and expecting them to fly free without a concern in the world. Deep psychological problems are to be expected from such situations.
Is there anyone here suggesting otherwise? 
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline G-Unit

Re: When Madeleine is Found.
« Reply #103 on: March 03, 2020, 08:37:19 PM »
The point I was making was that it's not just as easy as opening the door and expecting them to fly free without a concern in the world. Deep psychological problems are to be expected from such situations.

They had health problems due to never seeing daylight and panic attacks in normal rooms due to living in a small space. The boy has difficulties walking as the ceiling in the cellar was too low. Then they have the problem that their grandfather fathered them, none of them got healthcare and they were there when their mother was raped and when she gave birth. There's so much to deal with that I doubt they'll ever be able to live normal lives; better, but not normal.
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Offline Anthro

Re: When Madeleine is Found.
« Reply #104 on: March 03, 2020, 08:40:11 PM »
Hi Everyone, I wish to clarify the following re. posting pictures of young and teenage children/girls as well as other individuals. My context is the following; and has been stated as such in each instance:

- I have posted images in response to John’s post about Jos Brech, having been implicated in the abduction and death of Nicky Verstappen 20 years ago. Also, how advancements in DNA research have facilitated this. Brech has been in prison in his native country, the Netherlands, for 18 months already. Despite all the evidence against him, he chooses to remain silent. The case will be in court on May 6, where the state will map out their evidence, eye witnesses’s reports and DNA recovered from Nicky’s underwear. I have posted Brech’s picture in comparison/resemblance to the person who has never been identified as possibly being involved in Madeleine’s disappearance.

- The person who has a site called ‘Rescue Madeleine McCann’ has an elaborate theory on what happened and how it played out. He gave me his permission to share his theory and pictures of who he thinks Madeleine is at present, also some pictures depicting the girl as an 8-year old.

- Since there hasn’t been an age-progression of an alive Madeleine since the age of 9, I have shared a picture of a family member whom I think resembles Madeleine at the age of almost 17. I clearly stated it is hypothetical, and I never claimed she was/or, possibly is Madeleine.

I take exception to the accusation that I post pictures without consent/explanation, what it is about. I have used secondary sources to share information on other lines of thought. If one takes the time and follows a thread/discussion, surely the background and context, are in the thread.